From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 22 15:13:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C47437B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC3643E4A for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0182.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.182] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18bU33-0006JB-00; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:12:46 -0800 Message-ID: <3E2F251A.A471CC49@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:11:22 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yury Tarasievich Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: verbose device probing ? References: <20030122024713.I43637-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee> <3E2EBC79.5020704@grsu.by> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a447cf5551a207e3fecaf0c42dd72ebe0ba7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yury Tarasievich wrote: > Narvi wrote: > >If only Joe-Bob or some other very limited set of people have the > >card, then the severity of the bug in the *FreeBSD* bug database > >should probably not be 5 - orherwise the database will contain a > >large amount of bugs that claim to be of high severity but only > >ever affect negliblme amounts of pevple > > I'd say there is *no* such thing as "negligible amount of people" in > FreeBSD community. In Windows community, perhaps. Not here. Remember we > aren't yet talking millions of installations and must-setup thing. No > negligible (discardable) amount of people, then. Please. I understand your point, by my example implied "one person who can't program well enough to fix it themselves, and who has a one of a kind oddball variation on a standard card, which could be taken ito account by the driver, with code specific to that one card in all of human controlled space". It's the degenerate border case. I didn't expect Joe-Bob to be supported, unless he did something like spend enough on postage to send the card itself, along with documentation, to someone who cared enough about their personal relationship with Joe-Bob, and/or evangelizing FreeBSD, to do the work. With that much postage, and that much desire to help out, there are three real fixes: 1) Joe-Bob can spend the postage on a new card instead 2) The samaritan can buy a new card, and replace Joe-Bob's prototype card's guts, and just not tell him (what Joe-Bob doesn't know, won't hurt him). 3) The samaritan can actually do the changes, and fight the uphill battle to get the code committed to FreeBSD proper These also happen to be the order in which I would consider addressing the problem... ;^). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message