From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 02:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7760A37B401 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15B643FAF for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 02:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36C17526A5; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:15:54 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:15:54 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Brad Knowles Message-ID: <20030804094554.GL95375@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030731045030.GH33447@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030731093031.17deae97.ltning@anduin.net> <20030804044432.GV95375@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030803.235155.123970624.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z4rh66uIX5MfNyUL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lucent IBSS mode doesn't work in -CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 09:45:58 -0000 --z4rh66uIX5MfNyUL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 4 August 2003 at 11:37:44 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 11:51 PM -0600 2003/08/03, M. Warner Losh wrote: > >> In message: <20030804044432.GV95375@wantadilla.lemis.com> >> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: >> >>> On Thursday, 31 July 2003 at 9:30:31 +0200, Eirik Oeverby wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh and btw.. Get the *latest* firmware onto all your cards. That is >>>> essential for anything to work right at all.. >>> >>> That sounds wrong to me. If it worked before, and it doesn't now, >>> that's not the fault of the firmware. >> >> Quit harping on it, ok. We know there's a bug and carping like this >> makes me less willing to find and fix it. > > I'm confused. I agree that I have sometimes found Greg to be a > bit annoying, but it seems to me that he's asking a perfectly > legitimate question -- if things worked fine in the past (including > the firmware versions at the time), and they don't work now, then why > is a firmware update needed? > > I would ask: > > What changed so that things broke, and why can't we go back > to the way things worked before? I think you're misunderstanding Warner. He's not disagreeing. My message wasn't directed at Warner, it was directed at Eirik. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --z4rh66uIX5MfNyUL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/LitSIubykFB6QiMRAmfvAKCavniBTRJr3DD4WEILxJiDGB8bjQCglVPE cM8M1xHKlpZeQvQhljDAecI= =FG2D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z4rh66uIX5MfNyUL--