From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 18:22:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF96124D for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CE201A19 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VtiFH-0003ek-15 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:22:55 +0100 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:22:51 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:22:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:22:59 -0000 krad gmail.com> writes: > > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour Hi, I think some of the comments there are a proof that the author lacks knowledge about topics discussed ("Why do BSD people fear systemd?" post is an example of it; I am a long time Linux user and consider it, supposedly only a replacement for an init system, a kind of "trojan horse" of free software eco-system). But, the point she made indirectly via FreeBSD list posts about Google Analytics is right. Considering that Google officially said that it will not respect user's choice to not be tracked ("Do Not Track" option in a browser), then it is reasonable to reject their privacy-violating software. Considering also that FreeBSD made that announcement a year ago (Dec 2012) and since then the world learned more about friendly spying (yes, everybody does it, btw), it is resonable to back off. Besides, the justification for it http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2012-December/001441.html is unreasonable - a free and open software like FreeBSD should think twice before giving even an appearance of tracking users on their site except for security reasons (I think the behavioral reasons given are not sincere - FreeBSD can "leave the home without it", really ...). Using a de facto spyware for that purpose makes it even more ridiculous. And if you have a doubt about it, then read this (and followup comments which are even more enlightening): http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/politics/report-on-nsa-surveillance-tactics.html?emc=edit_na_20131218&_r=1&#h[] "The Times They Are A-changin'". I think you are losing the PR part of it for certain. jb