From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 17:35:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDBF216; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFDC8FC15; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Toshi.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02736; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:35:19 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <201212101735.KAA02736@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:34:44 -0700 To: Adrian Chadd From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas? In-Reply-To: References: <201212090318.UAA11257@lariat.net> <50C4A341.9070903@FreeBSD.org> <201212092031.NAA17017@lariat.net> <201212092215.PAA17770@lariat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Dimitry Andric X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:35:22 -0000 At 03:41 PM 12/9/2012, Adrian Chadd wrote: >I'll amend my "stuff that will help" list: > >* Donate to the freebsd foundation, along with opening discussions to >them about how your organisation uses / relies upon freebsd; >* Volunteer to join the release engineering / package building teams, >and actively donate manpower to the project. I've thought about donating manpower; tried to many years ago, in fact. But I was deterred by the egos, the politics, and the territoriality and hotheadedness of some of the developers. So, most of my contributions of code (and I have made quite a few) have been passed quietly through committers so as to avoid this. Maybe the situation is better now; I don't know. As for monetary donations: We are not a large corporation, and so could only make relatively small ones as opposed to more valuable "in kind" donations. --Brett Glass