From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Oct 28 13:54:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADBE37B401 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [207.200.51.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5DD43E6E for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:54:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLs2s14229; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:54:02 -0600 (CST) Received: (from root@localhost) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id g9SLs2Z01548; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:54:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from centtech.com (electron [204.177.173.173]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLrwx01541; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:53:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DBDB1F9.9050302@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:54:01 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Barrett Cc: DavidJohnson@siemens.com, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux For Managers Part 2 References: <20021028214242.1569.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Derek Barrett wrote: > That's all I can think of. No offense to the community at large, but the FreeBSD advocacy efforts seem to be outdated and have fallen by the wayside. None taken.. :) You are right, and this is something that has been talked about a little, but needs some action instead of words.. > What Postgres had alot of success with, was they basically just asked everyone in the community that was using it, to come back and let them know. This was awesome, because what came back was very surprising, we learned that Cisco, BASF, and the .INFO domains all use Postgres. Postgres recently beat out Oracle (there were about 15 firms and they all were proposing to us Oracle) to host the entire .ORG registry. That's a great idea - maybe a "FreeBSD advocacy campaign" should be started.. > I feel that FreeBSD desparately needs to update its case studies. We should follow the Postgres example. Heck, I'll even set something up like the Postgres Advocacy site, if people want to let everyone know that their company is using FreeBSD. Great! I'd say set this up, and start pumping people to "fill in the blanks". Maybe you could also have a section on there asking why they chose freebsd. Then that data could be compiled and made into a more concise managerese listing. Eric > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Johnson David > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:11:34 -0800 > To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: FreeBSD vs Linux For Managers... > > > >>A coworker and I are planning on replacing about 20 LynxOS lab workstations >>with FreeBSD. We originally chose LynxOS because that's what our embedded >>products use. But its getting too expensive to support it on workstation, and >>they're difficult to maintain. >> >>I stepped up to the plate and set up a prototype workstation with FreeBSD, >>with an identical look-and-feel to the other workstations (mwm, development >>scripts, etc), and created a step-by-step guide to installation and >>configuration. >> >>The sole purpose of these workstations is to connect to our embedded products >>via cu. >> >>We are all set to go to roll out FreeBSD to the other lab workstations. But >>some Linux advocate in the company is starting to raise a stink (even though >>he is unwilling to help in the conversion and subsequent maintenance). Now >>the manager in charge of the machines wants a report on why FreeBSD was >>chosen instead of Linux. Sigh. >> >>So what good reasons translated into Manager-ese can I present? >> >>Thanks, >> >>David Johnson >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message >> >> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Johnson David > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:11:34 -0800 > To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: FreeBSD vs Linux For Managers... > > > >>A coworker and I are planning on replacing about 20 LynxOS lab workstations >>with FreeBSD. We originally chose LynxOS because that's what our embedded >>products use. But its getting too expensive to support it on workstation, and >>they're difficult to maintain. >> >>I stepped up to the plate and set up a prototype workstation with FreeBSD, >>with an identical look-and-feel to the other workstations (mwm, development >>scripts, etc), and created a step-by-step guide to installation and >>configuration. >> >>The sole purpose of these workstations is to connect to our embedded products >>via cu. >> >>We are all set to go to roll out FreeBSD to the other lab workstations. But >>some Linux advocate in the company is starting to raise a stink (even though >>he is unwilling to help in the conversion and subsequent maintenance). Now >>the manager in charge of the machines wants a report on why FreeBSD was >>chosen instead of Linux. Sigh. >> >>So what good reasons translated into Manager-ese can I present? >> >>Thanks, >> >>David Johnson >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message >> >> > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Beware the fury of a patient man. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message