From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 19:13:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0976B16A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A0D243D31 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 15858 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2004 03:12:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by santiago with SMTP; 19 Mar 2004 03:12:56 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.203.19]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040319031256.YOPY9972.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:12:56 +0800 Message-ID: <405A6537.2070607@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:12:55 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olaf Hoyer References: <20040318232348.BE86443D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20040319013145.P44321@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> In-Reply-To: <20040319013145.P44321@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Artem Koutchine cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" cc: Lanny Baron Subject: Re: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:13:00 -0000 Hi, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Simon wrote: > > >>What exactly is not easily achievable with a modern dual Xeon Intel server >>with 20 modern SCSI harddrives and proper RAID card? that is on an old >>E450 Sparc? have you personally done any testing to back this up? surely, >>the chipset design of Intel boards are not up-to-par with latest Sun servers, >>but Intel is catching up. There was just never enough demand until now. > > > Yes, its an E450 with 4x400MHZ Ultrasparc 2, IIRC with 2 or 4MB 2nd > level cache, acting as mail server, pumping several millions of emails > around per day, with 2 million mailboxes to deliver to, being one of > several mailhosts. > > Thats a region where a i386-based box won't fit easily, also the > diagnostics regarding flaky RAM or CPU are way better with SUN than with > most i386-based hardware. > People tend to forget that the CPU clock rate of all Sun boxes is pretty low but the I/O bandwith is much higher than the memory bandwith of Xeon machine. Little things like changing a CPU while the machine is up and running is not known to PC based servers at all. A PC based server is good when you have to consider the money but will increase the risk of down-time. Erich