From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 04:01:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C67C4346; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 04:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from astart2.astart.com (108-248-95-193.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net [108.248.95.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88AFF2C0A; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 04:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop_84.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by astart2.astart.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s66419ZI063843; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from papowell@astart.com) Message-ID: <53B8CA04.7000400@astart.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 21:01:08 -0700 From: Patrick Powell Reply-To: papowell@astart.com Organization: Astart Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130714 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails References: <53B6D2CE.1090604@astart.com> <53B6FA75.6020302@astart.com> <53B71B56.5070009@rainbow-runner.nl> <53B735A6.7090803@astart.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: Koop Mast , "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Ports ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 04:01:18 -0000 On 07/04/14 16:28, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Powell > wrote: > > On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote: > > [...] > > On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > This discussion begs the question of why won't > WITH_NEW_XORG work for you? > I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no > support in recent > Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as > time passes, the bit > rot will make more and more things fail with the old code. > > I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the > failure you see > WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, > /etc/src.conf and > any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and > might not). x11@ > is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X > issues. > > I should also recommend that, if you have not already > tried, move your > Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is > very rare to > require a full configuration these days. Most only need > things for added > fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is > only about 27 lines > long and mostly added fonts. > > ports/UPDATING states: > 20140218: > AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4 > AUTHOR: kde@FreeBSD.org > > KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin, > kdenetwork, kdesdk, > and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes. > > KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires > modern > Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update > Xorg ports > to newer version follow instructions at > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > > So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. > > -Koop > > Ahhh!!! I missed that. > > If this is the case, then perhaps the default for generating the > PKGNG repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG? > Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications. > > OR: we could have two repositories: one which uses > WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support > and one with WITH_NEW_XORG which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4 > support. > > I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't > recall the outcome. > > > Your timing is MOST excellent. Koop just announced those repositories > were available a few hours ago. > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=306646+0+current/freebsd-announce > > The repositories cover 9.x and 10.x for i386 and amd64. > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com Huzzah! Hurrah.... Ummm... hold on a bit here... No 8.4 support? Why not just toss it in, with the usual: Warning! Here there be dragons. Or at least untested and verified packages. These have been compiled with make.conf containing: MAKE_NEW_XORG=yes At least doing this will provide KDE4 packages in an easy to access fashion. As for the XORG support, this seems to work fine for me as well, so I do not need compatibility with the old drivers... Yes, yes... sloth.