From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 23:16:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A9D541F for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22c.google.com (mail-we0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E46B2F35 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id u57so3611476wes.17 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:16:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Lb+JHqC/C5ty5La6f2dgC7cJO5VDFDKDY+761Yd5Ukc=; b=Cu9SoGOZXX0xI8sUGf1F1qsaikLsPqttCnUPqDNJhw3n9F/3INJAPPMIYZrZdt+pF8 S2YmnSfSQtQaTSFLEVvCf28sOcdZoCy+UpOzemhN8pPdwwuMUc0uSsb2tl6AEyL/Rwfl GoKqIsh+iQkiVtcz+b3Z1imYp7erci/hARSCy8LdMiWBZMakDZSqgAILHsniXT87yM5X M5ivqFLvUMXMc/1WYum/LWgRpH3C48kcBNsjH/J2Ym4rbaTGjIjvW2pWonT5poOBThBv xHPZA3Ln+k5bmPUUDq+vJmmmjNpPuWZG3Ld/bT9jtdQ1Q4Jn5/OnAVKcg1G7NRYPsx4e xyAA== X-Received: by 10.194.191.162 with SMTP id gz2mr27937459wjc.89.1404688562387; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gi15sm85435461wjc.20.2014.07.06.16.16.01 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 01:15:59 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: olli hauer Subject: Re: Apache 2.4 must become default NOW Message-ID: <20140706231559.GB8523@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <0E822D68-96E1-4328-9D00-1ADBF5671699@lists.zabbadoz.net> <53B9CD64.3010707@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53B9CD64.3010707@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 23:16:04 -0000 --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 12:27:48AM +0200, olli hauer wrote: > On 2014-07-05 19:09, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > given ports@ ist listed as maintainer, you get the email. The Subject = says it. The world has moved on; in March I had a hard time arguing, in J= uly I just cannot anymore. We must switch to 2.4; whatever breaks needs f= ixing, but somehow other distributions have managed and we did not and keep= screwing our users missing a lot of security features. > >=20 > > Please fix! > >=20 > > =E2=80=94=20 > > Bjoern A. Zeeb "Come on. Learn, goddamn it.", WarGames, 1983 >=20 >=20 > Hi Bjoern, >=20 > nothing against this change, except your complain comes a little bit late. >=20 > The portstree was already tagged for 9.3 some days ago so this change wou= ld be a possible issue for all users using the 9.3 packages. >=20 > Before the default version can be changed a full expr. run by portmgr@ is= required and all possible issues should be fixed. >=20 > Unluckily we have a rolling ports tree (not like RHEL and others where su= ch a change happens during new major releases) so there should be also a ti= me frame to warn users about such a change. >=20 > I remember endless discussions about the removal of apache13 after it was= already deprecated nearly one year after upstream deprecation ... Just provide the patch for the change and warn the user about the change, n= ow, just do not MFH it to the quarterly branch, so the user willing to keep apa= che22 for a while can live on the quarterly branch for the next 3 months :) I don't see the problem for the people using 9.3 packages, if they want stability they will stay on quarterly branch which still provides by default apache22 for 3 month. Hopefully when pkg 1.3 will land we will be able to add new feature to the = ports tree aka build the apache module for all supported apache version leading to anyone using package being able to chose the apache version they what whate= ver the default is (but we are not there yet :)) regards, Bapt --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlO52K8ACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EyLmwCbBHpOknr9M4ntriu3nY8EmFMw evMAniwfORsti4HYmg3LjzMN2laNOJGV =p0fH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB--