From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 18 19:56:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FFDBD6 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwm@rainbow-runner.nl) Received: from fep21.mx.upcmail.net (fep21.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD5F1013 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge04.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.239]) by viefep21-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20130618195558.BXHY1449.viefep21-int.chello.at@edge04.upcmail.net>; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:55:58 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([178.84.132.32]) by edge04.upcmail.net with edge id pvvx1l00t0i5fp603vvxw7; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:55:58 +0200 X-SourceIP: 178.84.132.32 Message-ID: <51C0BB4F.6080008@rainbow-runner.nl> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:55:59 +0200 From: Koop Mast User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] switch default xorg version in 9.1 and later References: <51C0AE69.6090505@freebsd.org> <201306181925.r5IJPupr089910@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130618-0, 18-06-2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:56:01 -0000 On 18-6-2013 21:38, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:00:57 +0200 >> From: Niclas Zeising >> >> It is time to switch the default version of xorg on FreeBSD 9.1 and >> later, including CURRENT. >> >> > Great work, Im all for progress, but in general what is "legacy hardware" > how are users of the binary nvidia driver effected? > eg im confused if I have a recent nvidia card Eg 560 series, does the "new" > xorg work as expected or is this legacy hardware because it does not > support KMS? > so far as I know KMS for intel is in 9.1 and there is some sort of start on > KMS for ATI in HEAD... but nothing yet for Nvidia. > You mean the opensource nvidia driver nouveau? From my limited understanding that will take another KMS based kernel API to work. And since we have already very good binary blob support, so I think it is unlikely someone is going to get worked on that very soon. The normal nvidia-driver works fine with the xorg-server 1.12, I'm not sure how the xorg-server support is for the older legacy nvidia-drivers. That is indeed a point that might need to be looked at. -Koop