From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 16 0:54:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C69F37B417; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Qlrw-000Phw-00; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:56:28 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Crist J . Clark" Cc: FreeBSD@jovi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, bug-followup@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/33904: secure mode bug In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:03:03 PST." <20020115210303.E31328@blossom.cjclark.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:56:28 +0200 Message-ID: <98823.1011171388@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:03:03 PST, "Crist J . Clark" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 03:03:42PM -0500, FreeBSD@jovi.net wrote: > > It would help to document or fix date/ntpdate/ntpd/... > > ntpdate(8) and ntpd(8) are contributed software. As far as I can tell, > FreeBSD uses "virgin" imports. There is no local customization of the > code. Maintaining local modifications to code maintained by outside > vendors is expensive and therefore needs a lot of justification. And that's not the point. :-) Basically, we're being asked to compensate for poor conduct on the part of an administrator who changed the securelevel without knowing what he was doing. We can't compensate for poor change control in our documentation. This is akin to documenting in the manual pages of _every_ utility that writes to some file in the /var hierarchy, that the /var filesystem must not be mounted read-only. Let's just close the PR already. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message