From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 06:12:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A190106566B for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFA78FC0A for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6I6Chtw007851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6I6ChqI007850; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA09098; Sun, 17 Jul 11 23:05:22 PDT Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:05:47 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jrisom@gmail.com, cbergstrom@pathscale.com Message-Id: <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110717071059.25971662@scorpio> <4E22DFE9.7050007@pathscale.com> <201107172016.30727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4E23989F.7010701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E23989F.7010701@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:12:45 -0000 Joshua Isom wrote: > On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote: > >> I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more > >> people would forget about it and focus on making KDE better ;) ... > What about enlightenment? For us old-timers :) What's the advantage of any of these "desktop environments" (Gnome, KDE, enlightenment, Xfce) over ordinary X11 with (say) FVWM2 or TWM? Certainly there are some useful apps that, for better or worse, are built with gtk or the KDE toolkit, but what does the full-blown environment really contribute (other than bloat)?