From owner-freebsd-chat Mon May 6 06:06:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA10946 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 6 May 1996 06:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tarsier.cv.nrao.edu (juphoff@tarsier.cv.nrao.edu [192.33.115.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA10940 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 06:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from juphoff@localhost) by tarsier.cv.nrao.edu (8.6.13/$Revision: 2.7 $) id JAA05982; Mon, 6 May 1996 09:06:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 09:06:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199605061306.JAA05982@tarsier.cv.nrao.edu> From: Jeff Uphoff To: "matthew c. mead" Cc: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, chat@freebsd.org, pmurphy@nrao.edu Subject: Re: [Forwarded e-mail from Alexander O. Yuriev] In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, May 6, 1996 00:52:59 -0400 References: <199605041501.LAA07331@tarsier.cv.nrao.edu> <199605060453.AAA20489@neon.Glock.COM> X-Spook: militia ACLU weapons X-Mailer: VM 5.95 (beta); GNU Emacs 19.29.1 X-Attribution: Up Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "mcm" == matthew c mead writes: mcm> I think it was a comparison to Bill Gates... I seem to mcm> recall being forwarded that too... :-) There must be two then; I just found this one in one of my quotes files: "I think Linus is cuter than that stupid thing with the pitch-fork." I won't attribute the quote since I don't want to get that person into hot water too (he's one of the well-known Linux hackers). :)~ mcm> Awwww, come on! I had to! The FreeBSD chat mailing list mcm> exists for such general chat and frivolous posting purposes! Sounds like the linux-kernel list sometimes; I've seen higher valid content ratios on IRC channels. mcm> I don't get that either. I usually tell people I mcm> recommend FreeBSD because of certain things, but then tell them mcm> if there are certain other things they want to do or don't want mcm> to wait for, they should stick with Linux. Most people end up mcm> installing what most of their friends have anyway, which, around mcm> here these days, tends to be Linux. You gotta go with your mcm> strongest peer support network. 100% agreed. If someone is fairly new to UNIX, I usually recommend Linux to them since they'll normally have an easier time finding friends that can help them, and there are a *lot* of Linux books (though only a few really good ones) available at most decent bookstores now. There's also Red Hat, which makes installation, admin., and upgrading a relative breeze. (When I recommend Linux I usually recommend Red Hat.) If they're already UNIX veterans, I'll normally recommend that they try both OS's and then stick with the one they like better. (Personally, I tried 386BSD before trying Linux since I was already a SunOS user....) One nice thing about the FreeBSD world is that it has one "distribution" so the confusion factor is often a great deal lower; there're no "which FreeBSD should I try?" type questions.... mcm> And I thought Pat was running up the mailq's. Hehe. mcm> He's told me horror stories about yours. I've done `mailq | wc -l` before and seen numbers well into the tens of thousands before.... --Up. -- Jeff Uphoff - systems/network admin. | juphoff@nrao.edu National Radio Astronomy Observatory | juphoff@bofh.org.uk Charlottesville, VA, USA | jeff.uphoff@linux.org PGP key available at: http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~juphoff/