From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:13:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5247716A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE4F13C43E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBEMDTNF043360; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:13:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" , Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:14:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200712141646.07364.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:13:36 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Heiko Wundram > (Beenic) > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:46 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2007 16:27:42 schrieb RW: > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:06:25 -0800 > > > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > Consider also that the majority of webinterfaces to mailservers > > > are written using the uw-c-client imap libraries. So you go ahead > > > and install dovecot - then watch when you install a webinterface > > > the port manager sucking in the uw imap stuff anyway. Might as > > > well run the uw imap server if your going to run the uw libraries. > > > > None of the major webmail clients appear to depend on cclient > > > > _The_ major webmail clients (Horde-IMP and SquirrelMail come to > mind as the > most used ones immediately) are written in PHP and require the > IMAP extension > for PHP (to do IMAP), which in turn depends on cclient, so basically the > major webmail clients do depend on cclient (even though indirectly). > > Why the cclient dependency (for the IMAP extension of PHP) > doesn't show up in > your grepping of ports I don't know, but it's an easy check for > you to test > that the IMAP extension for PHP either comes with cclient > bundled, or with a > dependency on it that's slightly hidden in the Makefile. > As I said I did a survey of all known web clients earlier this year that did not require a specific server - I might have even posted it to the list. But I guess that's a challenge to some people to "prove" I don't know what I'm talking about. ;-) If you feel you must avoid "c-client" you can do it the following way: 1) The webmail that comes with SquirrelMail I would be surprised if it uses it - but, that webmail is inseparable from the SquirrelMail SMTP server and cannot be installed separately. I didn't test it because of that. 2) Openwebmail is one of the few webmails that can -directly- access the mailboxes through the filesystem - of course you have to configure it to do this - and I think the port of it has the PHP imap extension listed as a dependency anyway. Neomail is the predicessor to openwebmail and is the same - of course, it has several known security holes. 3) Nullsoft webmail is pop3 only and does not use the c-client libs. There are significat problems with running webmail using a pop3 backend. 4) ilohamail wrote his own imap library and does not use c-client. Its not a bad webmail but the developer lost interest in it a while ago. you need to load it from the CVS. signatures in the cvs distro are broken, everything else works. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM