From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 21 8:53:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ambar.ofermundo.com.ar (h066060007247.isol.net.ar [66.60.7.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000F437B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel@grunblatt.com.ar) Received: from h066060007247.isol.net.ar (h066060007247.isol.net.ar [66.60.7.247]) by ambar.ofermundo.com.ar (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5LFm1B17623; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:48:02 -0300 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:48:01 -0300 (ART) From: Daniel Grunblatt X-Sender: daniel@ambar.ofermundo.com.ar To: Joe Clarke Cc: =?iso-8859-1?B?TeFyY2lvIERhdmlk?= , culverk@wam.umd.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD ? What kind of OS is that ? In-Reply-To: <20010621112855.U27505-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please, understand the diference between kick that asshole and believe in this project, and between everyone and our fellow ... anyway send him to www.freebsd.org, I don't think any of us should lose time because he does not wan't to do anything. On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Joe Clarke wrote: > Well, I'd like to make everyone's FreeBSD experience (or lack of > experience) a good one. I've been using FreeBSD for 6 years now, and I > really believe in this project. If we start flaming everyone, we'll turn > into another Linux users list. >=20 > Joe Clarke >=20 > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Daniel Grunblatt wrote: >=20 > > Is it really usefull to answer to such an asshole? why don't you just t= ell > > him that freebsd sucks and he must stay as far as he can from it? > > > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Joe Clarke wrote: > > > > > A screenshot of FreeBSD is somewhat useless. Bring up a bash shell i= n > > > BeOS, and you've got a good idea. However, like with Linux, there ar= e > > > many different X11 desktops (like KDE, Gnome, xfce), and window manag= ers > > > (afterstep, windowmaker, twm, mwm, sawfish, enlightenment, etc.). Go= ing > > > to any one of their pages will show you screenshots of what those > > > interfaces can do. > > > > > > Joe Clarke > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] M=E1rcio David wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx everyone for the replys. > > > > > > > > Maybe I'll check this FreeBSD someday, when i have some free time (= and a > > > > free HD... dont wanna have 2 OSs in the same HD..) > > > > > > > > About the MacOS X, well, i had an iMac 233 and had lots of hardware > > > > problems (most of them in my monitor ! Just after about 1 year usin= g > > > > it...). And Macs are REALLY expansive in my country... I can buy ab= out 3 > > > > good pcs with the money... > > > > > > > > I'll still with Windows and BeOS for now... > > > > > > > > Just one more thing.. Can you give me a link for some FreeBSD > > > > screenshots ? > > > > > > > > Gotta go. cya. > > > > > > > > MD > > > > > > > > >To add to Ken's comments, if you want to use a really nice, and ea= sy OS > > > > >with FreeBSD under the covers, I recommend Mac OS X. I know you'll= have > > > > >to buy new hardware for it, but it will definitely satisfy most of= what > > > > >you want. The GUI comes up out of the box, networking is a snap, a= nd > > > > root > > > > >is disabled ;-). > > > > > > > > > >While I persoanlly love FreeBSD, I'd hate to recommend it saying i= t will > > > > >be the OS of your dreams. If you're looking for something like Win= dows, > > > > >FreeBSD is probably not for you. > > > > > > > > > >Joe Clarke > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using M$ Win ME right now. I tried windows 95/98/ME/2K, M= acOS, > > > > > > > Linux (many distributions), BeOS, and some others OSs ! hehe = Well, > > > > > > > looking at all those OSs, I decided to continue with my old M= $ > > > > > > > OS........ But now I wanna something new ! Something diferent= =2E.. > > > > not > > > > > > > just a new stupid linux distribution that takes 5 hours to ma= ke it > > > > > > > work and about a month to make the damn internet work. So, i = would > > > > > > > like to know if FreeBSD is a DIFERENT OS, or it's just anothe= r > > > > > > > "Linux-like" OS. Exemple : Will i see a stupid prompt asking = me to > > > > > > > type "root" when i turn on my computer ? Will i have to use w= ich > > > > > > > Graphical interface ? (please, say it's not KDE...) Guess tha= t's > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, lets answer your questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) As for ease of use: it's not windows, if you took 5 hours to= get > > > > linux > > > > > > working, (any distribution) and a month to get the internet wor= king, > > > > then > > > > > > FreeBSD will most likely be harder for you. If you want ease of= use > > > > stick > > > > > > with winblows or BeOS. Just for comparison though, once you get > > > > everything > > > > > > working, you'll find that you can install and configure a syste= m in > > > > less > > > > > > than an hour, sometimes 30 minutes. (on my machine, that's fast= er > > > > than > > > > > > windows installs, and I have only ever installed FreeBSD from t= he > > > > network, > > > > > > never from CD) > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Linux-like is the wrong way to put it. FreeBSD is UNIX-based= , > > > > Linux is > > > > > > a UNIX clone, so Linux is UNIX-Like, and FreeBSD is UNIX-based. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) When you first install the machine, you will see a login pro= mpt, > > > > this > > > > > > is expected behavior for any UNIX based or UNIX like operating > > > > system, and > > > > > > it's not stupid, it's just not windows as I said before. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) You can choose which Graphical Interface is installed when y= ou're > > > > > > installing the operating system. KDE-2, Gnome, Windowmaker, etc= =2E.. > > > > it's up > > > > > > to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) to me it seems like your idea of a good os is one that is ea= sy and > > > > > > doesn't crash much. Well I've never had FreeBSD crash, and it's= hard > > > > to > > > > > > learn at first, but once you learn it, it becomes easier, and m= ore > > > > logical > > > > > > than windows. (I can fix a FreeBSD problem in minutes usually, = most > > > > often > > > > > > without even rebooting the machine, where my windows expert fri= ends > > > > often > > > > > > fix their problems by rebooting the machine) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________= _____________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmai= l.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message