From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 22 03:56:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3CB16A41A; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3C513C457; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 75FDF1CC050; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:56:43 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20070722035643.GA50025@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Marc G. Fournier" , Dan Nelson , Tim Daneliuk , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List References: <46A22253.8080100@tundraware.com> <20070721165539.GA2579@dan.emsphone.com> <1431AA268771E71884A824C3@fserv.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1431AA268771E71884A824C3@fserv.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Tim Daneliuk , Dan Nelson , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:56:43 -0000 On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:12AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > In the last episode (Jul 21), Tim Daneliuk said: > >> ad4: 238475MB at ata2-master SATA150 > > ad8: 152627MB at ata4-master SATA150 Something else I thought I'd mention in passing (though neither of you are affected by this, but I thought I'd throw it out there so people can find it): There is a specific model of WDC drive that reports incorrect thermal statistics via SMART. The temperatures are approximately 20C off (20C too high). The problem may affect other models, but so far has been confirmed by WD to affect 1 specific model. Rumour is that a drive firmware update can fix the problem, but WD isn't giving out the firmware nor the updater. Instead they're insisting owners file an RMA and send the drive back to WDC. How "convenient". Two weeks ago I noticed one (Seagate) drive in our server was reporting 32C, while the WDC drive in the carrier next to it was reporting 54C. As usual these days: Google to the rescue. I opted to do the "Advance Replacement", which is where you pay $80 or so for a replacement drive to be shipped to you first, and you'll be credited when WD receives the RMA'd drive. I'm glad I did it this way too, since chances are had I done a standard RMA it would've been returned to me with a "there's nothing wrong with this drive" note. The new drive I received had the same model and f/w revision, yet didn't see +20C temperatures via SMART. Hmmmm! The reason I'm pointing this out: either it's a hardware problem (thermistor of the wrong kind being installed), or a f/w problem. If it's a f/w problem, they aren't bothering to update the f/w revision number to differentiate drives with the broken code vs. ones with the working code. Naughty Western Digital... The file I kept on this matter is below, which includes a quote from some forum user. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ===================================================== Protocol Serial ATA II device model WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 firmware revision 02.01C03 http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/24609792/m/857003655731 http://forum.effizienzgurus.de/f40/temps-bei-wd-se16-250gb-wd2500ks-t1060.html "So I got in touch with WD's Customer Support and I have just being informed that this paticular drive, WD2500KS-00MJB0, contains a bug in the Firmware (mine got version number 02.01C03) with regards to the usage of the SMART feature. The temperature of the drive which it reports is not correct. Mine read over 30 degrees centigrade just after I started the PC up. This Temperature got up to 62 degrees after a short while, whilst my other two WD drives still reported only 32-33 degrees in about the same position in the tower as this drive. I've been told an Firmware upgrade to rectify this is on it's way." http://www.bugtrack.almico.com/view.php?id=468 http://secure.ncix.com/forumpost/displaythread.php?threadid=1026701 http://www.lavalys.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t1372.html =====================================================