From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 21:43:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848471065677 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431BA8FC15 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DDA1FFC33; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 11C8284488; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:41:04 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20100611162118.GR39829@acme.spoerlein.net> <867hm5tl6u.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100612153526.GA3632@acme.spoerlein.net> <20100612163208.GS87112@cicely7.cicely.de> <864oh86tnl.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100612225216.GT87112@cicely7.cicely.de> <86k4q33pk2.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100613160035.GD87112@cicely7.cicely.de> <86fx0q52r0.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100613162841.GE87112@cicely7.cicely.de> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:41:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20100613162841.GE87112@cicely7.cicely.de> (Bernd Walter's message of "Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:28:41 +0200") Message-ID: <86bpbe4nm8.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cleanup for cryptographic algorithms vs. compiler optimizations X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:43:15 -0000 Bernd Walter writes: > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav writes: > > The only way you can tell that gcc did it is if you break the rules, > > such as by defining your own version of printf() or puts(). > Our loader stages do this for good reasons. And in microcontroller > programming (surely out of FreeBSD scope) it is done very regulary. Those are freestanding environments, where printf() and puts() don't exist as far as the C standard is concerned. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no