From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Apr 22 20:47:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA9814E35 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:44:30 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Subject: RE: FreeBSD and memetics Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:44:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000201be8d3b$97a03b40$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <51207.924838293@zippy.cdrom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If he chooses option #3, that's the easiest "upsell" possible for us > since he's clearly accepted both Unix and the open source idea into > his heart and can deal with all the support and commercial application > shortcomings of that platform. If we can get him to give FreeBSD a > taste test, we stand a very good chance of "making a sale", at least a > far better chance than with options 1 or 2, and every customer which > Linux attracts away from options 1 and 2 is a customer which is that > much closer (far closer) to us. FreeBSD often has two irrational arguments used against it. One is the lack of a big company to provider support. The other is that it's not easy to use. Every Linux user is one more person who won't use either of those two arguments against FreeBSD. I've never had a Linux user tell me to use NT instead of FreeBSD. I've never had a Linux user tell me to use Solaris instead of FreeBSD. A Linux user can tell me to use Linux instead of FreeBSD, but he can't give a strong-sounding reason. Certainly not one that would convince a management-type. > I find it hard to believe that Linux is "hurting" us > more than it's helping us (see above) given numbers like these. Absolutely. And vice-versa. Both give credibility to UNIX and to open source. The two's combined market shread help to decimate the 'nobody wants an unsupported operating system' type of arguments. > It's a very rare experience where I hear > a customer say that they switched from FreeBSD to Linux or chose Linux > over FreeBSD based on an evaluation of technical merit. Actually, I have seen quite a few people switch from FreeBSD to Linux over FreeBSD's lack of a stable, efficient threads implementation. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message