From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 17:13:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B20237B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE0943EA9 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0436.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.181] helo=mindspring.com) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180srU-0002Ix-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:13:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAA0BE4.4D26942D@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:12:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021013221653.GA26225@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Compression gets rid of about 36MB. > > How long did that take to compress though? 2 minutes on a P3-800 with 128M of RAM and one IDE disk. Doesn't matter, because all it really adds is latency. > What load did the machine that did the compression have? Currently, > the snapshots.jp.freebsd.org machines build releases every 24 hours > which last 4-9 hours. I'm not sure if the same machines could spare > some cycles to compress the ISO images, or the disk space to store > almost duplicate copies of the same ISO images twice (compressed, and > uncompressed). The best people to ask about things like these are > the jp.freebsd.org admins and not a local compression program imho. The space argument may be valid; though, in that case, you'd expect that compressed images would be the only images that would be there. 8-). > > I think the correct answer is maybe "because the FAQ maintainers > > have broadband connections"... > > No we don't. My "ultrafast" connection is in fact a 28.8 Kbit/sec > dialup connection. This is why I don't download entire ISO images, > but instead do FTP-installs. So, there you go ;) It's *incredibly* hard to get a -current machine initially installed from sources corectly. It's easier to use the ISO's, even if they take a very long time to download. It's either that, or don't start following -current. > Not very irrelevant, as it might seem at first. Because I'm not > talking about the FTP server that delivers the files, but about the > server that 'builds the snapshots'. > > The donations list of freebsd.org lists requests for better, faster > release building machines for the Japan cluster. If you really think > that you can help, I'd be glad to be proven wrong by a generous > donation to the guys who have saved my -current installation at home a > dozen times with their snapshots. 3.5 hours worth of additional FTP downloading time per download, vs. two minutes of compression time... -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message