From owner-freebsd-current Mon Dec 13 15: 3: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailext12.compaq.com (mailext12.compaq.com [207.18.199.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE2315514 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:02:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: by mailext12.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id A117057953; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:02:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailint01.im.hou.compaq.com (mailint01.compaq.com [207.18.199.34]) by mailext12.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C3854602; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:02:26 -0600 (CST) Received: by mailint01.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 91407825EB; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:02:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (unknown [155.186.83.42]) by mailint01.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB22A78B42; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:02:18 -0600 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00939; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:36:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:36:33 -0600 From: Greg Lehey To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Soren Schmidt , Blaz Zupan , Christopher Masto , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! Message-ID: <19991211123633.G760@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <19991209225405.E866@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> <5386.944842313@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <5386.944842313@critter.freebsd.dk>; from phk@critter.freebsd.dk on Fri, Dec 10, 1999 at 05:11:53PM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 17:11:53 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <19991209225405.E866@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>, Greg Lehey writes: > >> We're getting off track again: the real issue is that you shouldn't >> completely replace old drivers with new, better written, less buggy >> drivers which have significantly less than the full functionality of >> the old driver. > > And while that attitude might work for an organization where some > PHB type can dictate what people should or shouldn't do, experience > has taught us that at some point you draw a line in the sand and > force people to concentrate on the path forward. Experience has also taught us that people draw the lines in different places. I haven't seen enough consideration of the end user in all this discussion. > Look at the sound code to see why your proposal doesn't work in our > reality. You're going to have to help me here. I hadn't used the sound code up to a couple of months ago. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message