From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 07:42:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14820 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:42:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14812 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from [204.255.227.56] (helo=gateway.cre8tivegroup.com) by iglou.com with esmtp (8.9.1/8.9.1) id 0z4REQ-0006Q9-00; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:41:33 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199808061421.IAA12098@mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 10:41:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Gardella To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From the license I signed: Sun grants to Licensee the royalty-free right to distribute binary code developed and compiled from the Licensed Software in accordance with Subsection 1.1 above ("Derived Binaries"), provided that: (i) Derived Binaries are not integrated, bundled, combined or associated in any way with a product, (ii) there is no charge associated with such distribution, (iii) Derived Binaries are fully compatible with the then-current version of the publicly available test suite supplied by Sun which verifies Java compatibility ("JavaTest Suite") and must remain compatible with subsequent versions of the JavaTest Suites and upgraded Licensed Software, and (iv) Derived Binaries are distributed subject to a license agreement containing terms and conditions at least as protective of Sun as those included in the binary code license used by Sun for internet distribution of the Java binaries. In the event that Licensee desires that such distribution be fee-based, or be associated with a product, Licensee must execute a commercial license agreement with Sun. Are we considering the CD either (a) a product or (b) charging for it? I don't consider that we are doing either. If JDK can be place in a book, and the book can be charged for, why can't we distribute them? And we've been distributing jdk102 on CD's for a while. I checked my 2.2.5-RELEASE CD's. It's on disk four in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory. On another matter. Since I was reading the source license, what about this clause: "Licensee shall not export, re-export or transfer, whether directly or indirectly, Licensed Software or Derived Binaries or direct products thereof, to any person or company who is a legal resident or is controlled by a legal resident of any proscribed country listed in the U.S. Export Administration Regulations (or any equivalent thereof) unless properly authorized by the U.S. Government." Are we "exporting" in a legal sense? Patrick On 06-Aug-98 Nate Williams wrote: >> No. We can and do distribute JDK on the CDs. > > If so, we certainly shouldn't. Distributing the JDK *except* via the > net is illegal according to SUN. You can distribute the JRE legally, > but *NOT* the JDK. > > *phew* I just checked, and indeed we don't put it on the CDROM. > > Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message