From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:24:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014C816A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14ECC43D80 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41880291B11; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23012-04; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD02291B0D; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id DF07B5C5BC; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA04C5C49A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:39 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:39 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20060804001011.17781.qmail@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060803211935.S25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060804001011.17781.qmail@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:24:50 -0000 On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com wrote: > Personally I don't think this stuff should be tracked in any centralized > fashion. I don't particullarly like when our freedom to choose to do > something is tracked or monitored; because it is no longer a freedom. > Maybe that is just paranoia speaking. none of your freedoms will be in any way infringed upon with what is proposed ... you will always have the freedom to disable the reporting and not particpate *shrug* > I think a much more productive goal is to get all the users that have > unsupported hardware to write into the vendor that created it and ask > them why they don't support a spawn of the OS that allowed what we call > the internet to exist. Put this message on FreeBSD.org, get people in > this list to do it, get on a soap box and scream it. I think giving them > numbers of systems will just be ignored. But getting 1000 emails a day > in multiple languages from around the world will get them thinking maybe > its worth at least releasing the specs just to shut these people up. The above is an "active campaign", which you will generally find doesn't yield anything, unfortunately, since its more work then 99.9% of the people will feel compelled to do ... As ScottL said in one of his emails, in a form ... We don't want to piss Adaptec off, which a "letter writing campaign" would ... what we want to do is give Adaptec something to think about in terms of 'market missed' ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664