From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 18:20:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219EC16A4D0; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:20:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36C143D3F; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flata@magnesium.net) Received: by toxic.magnesium.net (Postfix, from userid 1212) id B5A86DA83D; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:20:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:20:25 -1000 From: juli mallett To: Paul Richards Message-ID: <20050310182025.GA79937@toxic.magnesium.net> References: <422E407B.4080507@portaone.com> <86k6oht386.fsf@xps.des.no> <422F087F.9030906@portaone.com> <20050309.085035.129356491.imp@bsdimp.com> <422F6703.70409@portaone.com> <20050310161607.GO98930@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <86d5u7fn1z.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050310171917.GQ98930@myrddin.originative.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment In-Reply-To: <20050310171917.GQ98930@myrddin.originative.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Towel: Yes cc: Maxim Sobolev cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: alfred@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav cc: "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/compat/linux linux_socket.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:20:26 -0000 * Paul Richards [ Date: 2005-03-10 ] [ w.r.t. Re: cvs commit: src/sys/compat/linux linux_socket.c ] > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 06:06:16PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > Paul Richards writes: > > > Imagine something like Photoshop being written on the most recent > > > version of Mac OS X and finding that compatibility only worked > > > forward. That would mean that most users out there would have to > > > upgrade their OS in order to use the most recent version of Photoshop! > > > > Yes, that is usually how it goes. > > I don't believe it does. Can anyone provide real world examples of > this happening that we can consider? A number of Mac OS X applications target 10.2 and up, now. Some apps (macam.sf.net comes to mind) released stuff before then which is broken on newer Mac OS X, but can be fixed for 10.2. The 10.2 fixed stuff will not work on 10.1 or earlier. Apple provides "cross development" tools to build for just about every version of Mac OS X. But most sane people? They target 10.2+. Even though I'm sure on a mailing list somewhere, someone inside Apple who never seems able to find anything better to do is whining on some mailing list that doesn't care about how they're breaking all sorts of ABI, API, and Scary Monkey compat. Their cries of DOOOOOOOOOOOM go unheeded. So will yours.