From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 10:21:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56EF106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CF08FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:21:31 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,536,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="225958047" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2009 12:21:29 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id BA5121B0750; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:21:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Randi Harper Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall colours X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:21:31 -0000 Randi Harper schrieb am 2009-10-10: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Alexander Best < > alexbestms@math.uni-muenster.de> wrote: > > hi there, > > sysinstall is probably one of those ancient relics everybody tries > > to avoid > > dealing with from a developers point of view but i just found this > > beautiful > > screenie of a (probably) ncurse-based installer: > > http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=yoper_2009_beta&image=yoper_dresden_7_lrg > > i was surprised how much better it looks with those nice colours > > compared > > to > > sysinstall. > > is there any way the sysinstall colours could be adjusted (without > > a lot of > > work) to also feature such beautiful colours? i had a quick look at > > the > > sysinstall, libdialog and ncurses sources and to me it seems that > > to change > > sysinstall's colours the hardcoded values of > > COLOR_BLACK > > COLOR_RED > > COLOR_GREEN > > COLOR_YELLOW > > COLOR_BLUE > > COLOR_MAGENTA > > COLOR_CYAN > > COLOR_WHITE > > have to be changed in contrib/ncurses/ncurses/base/lib_color.c or > > is there > > an > > easier way? because this would of course affect all apps that are > > linked to > > ncurses. > > cheers. > > alex > Seriously?!?!?! All the problems with sysinstall, and your idea is to > change > the color? Are you trying to start a bikeshed? If so, I prefer pink. > -- randi of course sysinstall has a ton of problems and should be replaced. no doubt about it. but look at it from this angle: current developers don't seem to have any interest in improving sysinstall. so it's important to get new people involved in freebsd. and the way to do that is with an attractive looking installer and an easy installation process imo. sure a good installer doesn't make a good os. but let's face it. when you've been running windows for a few years and finally want to switch to something else you're likely looking for an os which doesn't frighten you off right at the start (which freebsd sort of does). so i think having a good looking installer is more than just eyecandy. i don't think hardcore developers who prefer working with a bare X and vi(m)/emacs and so forth should look down on people who are slowly starting to get involved in an os, because without new people freebsd will someday be dead. alex