From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 13:26:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from labs.unixhideout.com (dsl-65-187-193-189.telocity.com [65.187.193.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23DE37B401 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 13:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNIXHIDEOUT ([192.168.1.10]) by labs.unixhideout.com (8.12.4/8.12.3) with SMTP id g5PKQ1Fv055876; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:26:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from root@unixhideout.com) From: "ro0t" To: , Subject: RE: any idea what this means? Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:25:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20020625201004567.AAA767@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:10 PM To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: any idea what this means? Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 07:55:59 -0800 From: Beech Rintoul > I would also recommend Seagate, they seem to hold up better in production > machines than do Maxtor. Above all stay away from IBM. We have three of them > that were bad almost right from the box, and IBM is not being nice about > replacing them. I have beter things to do than a myriad of tests just to get > an RMA. Being new drives I figure they should give us the benefit of the > doubt and test them themselves. One they did replace had bad sectors right > out of the box. If those are 75GXP models, there are known problems with that series. In fact, that model has become rather infamous due to its problems. As it turns out, IBM recently announced it is getting out of the disk drive business altogether - it is selling the division to Hitachi. Could be the 75GXP debacle was the turning-point in that decision. Shortly prior to IBM's decision to get out of HD production, they issued some revised usage recommendations that suggested that those IDE drives were not meant for 24x7 server use. I think that in general the better SCSI drives are designed more with that in mind. My luck with IBM's SCSI drives has been pretty good actually. However my current favorite in SCSI drives is Fujitsu, although they aren't widely distributed via retail. (Fujitsu exited the IDE market, they are now only selling SCSI drives) Seagate is probably my #2 choice. Datapoint: I have had a 1GB Fujitsu SCSI drive (M2694-ES, old 50-pin SCSI-2 model) running 24x7 in a server here for ~2 yrs, and in another server prior to that for probably at least 1-2 yrs more, without a single problem. -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium Well when i bought the motherboard (Abit KT7A-RAID) i had plans for raid but couldnt afford to buy 2 identical drives at that time. (i really still cant lol) So at the time i bought the raid motherboard and disabled raid. but seeing as i _need_ a drive now anyway i found this site http://www.nexthardwareshop.com/ thru pricewatch.com. Lots of stuff fairly cheap. I just dont know what brand. Im pretty sure im going to get another seagate. I had a western digital fail on me, and i had many maxtors fail. (over 3 in 4 years) However i must admit i could get two 120 gigabyte maxtor hard drives for ony a little over 200 dollars at that site and raid them out... *tempting* Im pretty stuck at what im going to do. But i would rather have longevity, and stability so i may get two 80 or 60 gig seagates. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message