From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 03:35:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC2516A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C6113C469 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1247238rvb.43 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:35:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=f2ys7gQQU9XOAV1qPhzfFSNGq5BCpKJxZAKUoCOq88A=; b=EdLrN4EYkLS5enVchusIDAqR0ITnbJrwiePjCzA5w+ojsX1zic6NmroqJ+r0C9oybLb0NjN1hRBuRl2zKQyf8CNC9eweGJtsvHylobI9bwBTSqbaTzrADOJdAMGECjXn90ZOkK1SZ9UqvjZUxj9XJMUs8p/fWelmCXz2F0iD2ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=V1yoSImjcnTznRvHuOpo4p5VVnlhFiJhO4a2HzUynj9QLAWVZzqCvI6zLMcmJpYIZ0+PP8R7wjE+GwB5HVlSes515Q2YBgXseE7JNzPVRGtpeZRFYelf9cwXCWHtBa4G+ZtYP0jMPTcJFoWOxHypgkMbgabjbK2huup+RgDAWRA= Received: by 10.141.86.14 with SMTP id o14mr755865rvl.148.1197689722918; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.169.13 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:35:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540712141935j387d3cffo56d5aca0ba1865a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:35:22 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <47618AF4.5000208@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Rob , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:35:23 -0000 On Dec 13, 2007 10:06 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > The developer is very adamant about writing dovecot strictly to > > the letter of the IMAP specification. He's also discovered many > > of the popular clients have bugs, and are unable to work (or at > > least have issues) with an IMAP server that goes purely by the rules. > > > > He refused to "break" his software to work around bugs on the > > client side, but ultimately compromised by writing in > > work-arounds that you can enable in the config file. You can > > enable them all if you like. > > > > Which is a really dumb attitude since the dovecot developer was > not the author of the IMAP standard and probably was in diapers > when the standard was first written: I agree with your sentiment that, "who can use a server that no client can connect to?" However, that being said, why write a standard you don't intend to adhere too? It's a crying shame that folks write standards for things like IMAP and e-mail client providers don't follow them. I wished more people were like this fellow who writes Dovecot! If more people were strict about server interfaces, then perhaps more vendors would write their code to the standard instead of those who write the standards enabling poor compliance by "dumbing" down their servers. Ok, I'm off my soap box. Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?