From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D3E16A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1662E43D55 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A4D291B31 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96538-04 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E18A291B27 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 05CB85C646; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:30:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id D851B4A70C; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:09:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C214A526; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:09:43 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:09:43 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060729020734.P27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Atom Powers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:08 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> My shop runs 30+ FreeBSD hosts, and I have several more for personal >> use. But of those there are maybe 2-3 that I would be ok with listing >> and exactly zero that I will actually list. It's not that I don't want >> to help, but I'm not going to run a process like that on a production >> server. >> > > What about sending something as simple as uname -mr? 'k ... >> uname -mr > 6.1-STABLE i386 > > The only way this idea will work is if we put some code in the base > system that sends something generic every few months. for example. > Send 'uname -mr' to stats.freebsd.org every 3 months. It would be very > easy to 'opt out', perhaps stats_enable="NO" in rc.conf. > > Alternatively we could make it 'opt in' at install time. The installer > could add stats_enable="YES" to rc.conf when someone answers yes. > > The actual code to implement this is trivial, something like a few > lines of shell script and a config file that lists the next send date. > This config file can be checked during the monthly periodic and if > needed trigger the stats script to send the anonymous data and update > the next send date in the config file. If the stats script can't find > a path out it should update the next send date and then die. Why not just have it as part of the monthly_periodic itself ... have it send a copy to a central address as well as to the admin itself, with the message containing a note on how to disable it in /etc/rc.conf, and have it opt_in by default? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664