From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Dec 9 14:43: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp003pub.verizon.net (smtp003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3EB37B405 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 14:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-4-34-145-186.evrtwa1.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.145.186]) by smtp003pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id fB9Mfv814008 Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:42:00 -0600 (CST) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA49336; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 14:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 14:42:17 -0800 From: Robert Clark To: Brad Knowles Cc: Anthony Atkielski , Mike Meyer , Konstantinos Konstantinidis , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. Message-ID: <20011209144217.A49268@darkstar.gte.net> References: <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><000b01c17f42$c23ab140$0a0 <15377.17350.796336.801464@guru.mired.org> <006901c17f70$19a2f820$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00d901c17fa0$9d81f800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from brad.knowles@skynet.be on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:24:56AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The hole in the middle of a CD was sized to match a coin local to where the CD standard was set? I just can't remember where that was. [RC] On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:24:56AM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 5:27 AM +0100 on 2001/12/08, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > Can you say CD, or DVD? > > There are plenty of compromises that were made with both of these > technologies. Neither of them is anywhere near the best technical > solution for these problems. If they were, they would have had a > good technical reason for selecting the inner diameter of the CD (and > the products that have followed based on this form-factor, such as > DVD, etc...). > > You get bunny points if you can tell me the reason why the > external diameter of the CD was selected. You get extra bunny points > if you can tell me the real reason why the inner diameter of the CD > was selected. > > > Betacam SP and its digital successors resemble Betamax in the form of the > > cassette only, as far as I know. They are quite substantially removed from > > the consumer form of Betamax, although these professional formats do indeed > > have their origin in that type of cassette. > > Betamax was clearly superior at the time to VHS, and was arguably > even superior to S-VHS. Further generations of the technology have > retained their technical superiority, albeit in a format that has > virtually no consumer acceptance. > > > Professional formats are not dictated by technical considerations alone, > > however; U-Matic is still around, and it's garbage. > > U-matic defines the parameters by which all other analog video > formats are measured. Indeed, by your own claim that it is garbage, > you have proved the very point I was trying to make. Thank you. > > > But people do not buy their home or office computers as a mob. > > Yes they do. In your example, they are all lemmings who jump off > the bridge just because everyone else is jumping off the bridge, and > not for any real reason at all. Lemmings herd in the thousands, tens > of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or in the case of Windows, in > the hundreds of millions. But lemmings are lemmings. > > -- > Brad Knowles, > > H4sICIFgXzsCA2RtYS1zaWcAPVHLbsMwDDvXX0H0kkvbfxiwVw8FCmzAzqqj1F4dy7CdBfn7 > Kc6wmyGRFEnvvxiWQoCvqI7RSWTcfGXQNqCUAnfIU+AT8OZ/GCNjRVlH0bKpguJkxiITZqes > MxwpSucyDJzXxQEUe/ihgXqJXUXwD9ajB6NHonLmNrUSK9nacHQnH097szO74xFXqtlbT3il > wMsBz5cnfCR5cEmci0Rj9u/jqBbPeES1I4PeFBXPUIT1XDSOuutFXylzrQvGyboWstCoQZyP > dxX4dLx0eauFe1x9puhoi0Ao1omEJo+BZ6XLVNaVpWiKekxN0VK2VMpmAy+Bk7ZV4SO+p1L/ > uErNRS/qH2iFU+iNOtbcmVt9N16lfF7tLv9FXNj8AiyNcOi1AQAA > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message