From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 21 16:23:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8497D77 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barney_cordoba@yahoo.com) Received: from nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2548FA for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.101.129] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2013 16:23:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.1] by tm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2013 16:23:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2013 16:23:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 208830.11913.bm@omp1001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 84742 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2013 16:23:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1374423822; bh=QdS+SDtez+8N0+YASxnAsQV2CfqUisW6izDGYCBMbsQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GpJPA68lEemEnjuH0MAW1jYJBpqO1hy5SohxnfZNNt4641VF60VuILdgvOqokoTUMbI9uF5loR80JqCyYGS2Z180awl6Q+PGdiQyXfqL293aYDKznmLb4Jk4An2OKHLrc2kPQekmuX4zeu2jRb1pqMJUGszd3aabmyoqQO0ar/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=e04/scy4Z3+aSoxNgwB5l3EtUVjaUGviziZQ5rvlFZPczpkTIo+97OA0IZw8CpjeUnSOBH3k1paS9WU4dJLjZMHmWze1kh1jNhTteBUfpT3UGI6nm0fblLtBu1XwelTzAoZF7ciovh/FXMbMwGU99jk5/P+klITjIuQwoyfUuTA=; X-YMail-OSG: iluIogAVM1nKyULvWAUJaVeyeTSZ7LWVBeMdKwL02ShCkxd BV9nco4uVX2orzPA- Received: from [98.203.118.124] by web121604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 09:23:41 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SSB3YXNuJ3QgcmVmZXJyaW5nIHRvIHNjaWVuY2UgcHJvamVjdHMuIE5vciBkaWQgSSBzYXkgaXQgd2Fzbid0IHVzZWZ1bC4KT25seSB0aGF0IDEwZyBpcyBjaGVhcCBub3cgYW5kIHF1aXRlIGEgYml0IGJldHRlci4gTEFHRyBpc24ndCBwZXJmZWN0LgoKCi0tLS0tIE9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0KRnJvbTogQWRyaWFuIENoYWRkIDxhZHJpYW5AZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc.ClRvOiBCYXJuZXkgQ29yZG9iYSA8YmFybmV5X2NvcmRvYmFAeWFob28uY29tPgpDYzogZnJlZWJzZC1uZXRAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc7IGkBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.149.560 References: <53315.1374329071.4500971523820617728@ffe15.ukr.net> <1374411800.11157.YahooMailBasic@web121604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1374423821.78377.YahooMailNeo@web121604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 09:23:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Barney Cordoba Subject: Re: LACP LAGG device problems To: Adrian Chadd In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Barney Cordoba List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:23:49 -0000 I wasn't referring to science projects. Nor did I say it wasn't useful.=0AO= nly that 10g is cheap now and quite a bit better. LAGG isn't perfect.=0A=0A= =0A----- Original Message -----=0AFrom: Adrian Chadd = =0ATo: Barney Cordoba =0ACc: freebsd-net@freebsd.= org; isp =0ASent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:49 AM=0ASubject: R= e: LACP LAGG device problems=0A=0AHah!=0A=0AI'm pushing 20GE out using lagg= right now (and fixing the er, amusing=0Abehaviour of doing so.) I'm aiming= to hit 40 once I get hardware that=0Adoesn't get upset pushing that many b= its. The netops people at ${JOB}=0Aalso point out that even today switches = occasionally get confused and=0A"crash" a switchport. Ew.=0A=0ASo yes, ther= e are people using lagg, both for failover and throughput reasons.=0A=0AI'm= working on debugging/statistics right now as part of general "why=0Aare th= ings behaving crappy" debugging. I'll see about improving some=0Aof the pee= r reporting at the same time.=0A=0A=0A=0A-adrian=0A=0AOn 21 July 2013 06:03= , Barney Cordoba wrote:=0A>=0A> ----------------= ----------------------------=0A> On Sat, 7/20/13, isp wrote= :=0A>=0A>=A0 Subject: LACP LAGG device problems=0A>=A0 To: freebsd-net@free= bsd.org=0A>=A0 Date: Saturday, July 20, 2013, 10:04 AM=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>= =A0 Hi! Can anybody tell me, is there any plans to improve=0A>=A0 LAGG(802.= 3ad)=0A>=A0 device driver in FreeBSD?=0A>=A0 It will be greate to have a po= ssibility to set LACP mode=0A>=A0 (active/passive)=0A>=A0 and system priori= ty.=0A>=A0 Also there is no way to set hashing algorithm and master=0A>=A0 = interface=0A>=A0 (port).=0A>=A0 And we can't see any information about our = neighbor.=0A>=A0 The same function in Linux is named Bonding and it is much= =0A>=A0 more better.=0A>=A0 I realy can donate some money to those who can = make this=0A>=A0 improvements.=0A>=A0 Best regards.=0A>=0A>=A0 >=0A>=A0 ___= ____________________________________________=0A>=0A> Why are you using LAGG= when 10g cards are like $350? It's not=0A> a peering protocol nor it is PT= P; can you see your "peer" info on=0A> an ethernet?=0A>=0A> Bonding is a la= te 90s concept designed to connect 2 slow links to=0A> get higher speeds, b= ack in the day when 100Mb/s was ambitious.=0A> The point of LAGG is that it= 's transparent; you can load balance=0A> traffic to multiple hosts or creat= e a redundant link without having=0A> to have equipment running some specia= l applications, or any special=0A> logic above the LAGG device.=0A>=0A> Des= cribing how you are using LAGG (and why) might be better=0A> than just aski= ng for "improvements".=0A>=0A> BC=0A>=0A> _________________________________= ______________=0A> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.fr= eebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A