From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jul 24 15:24:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA28320 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28303 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cardinal.fsl.noaa.gov (daemon@cardinal.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.101]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08013; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:23:53 GMT Received: from auk.fsl.noaa.gov by cardinal.fsl.noaa.gov with SMTP (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA190303032; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:23:52 -0600 Message-Id: <33D7D5F8.55BE@fsl.noaa.gov> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:23:52 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: CIRA/NOAA X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/725) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mikael Karpberg Cc: jack , jfieber@indiana.edu, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bloated operating systems References: <199707242215.AAA29519@ocean.campus.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Probably more like "We will ship and shove down our users throats another > bloated OS which includes for example AFCs, but not JFCs, because that would > promote something that doesn't force the user to stay with windows." Except that the current pre-release of the AFCs is 100% pure Java, and is supposed to stay that way. I've developed some toy programs with it on HP/UX's 1.1 JDK, and sure enough, they barely work---but it was kinda eerie seeing new-Windows-style widgets on a Unix desktop before the stupid library crashed and burned. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/