From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 07:11:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F84937B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 07:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E17E43FF7 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 07:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com ESMTP <20030610141125.FUAK11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org>; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:11:25 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5AEAg4o065812; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:10:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5AEAgWZ060817; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:10:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:10:42 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Carl Morley Message-ID: <20030610141042.GA59950@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <20030610124207.GC59337@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <000a01c32f56$f96fea20$d964a8c0@cmlaptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000a01c32f56$f96fea20$d964a8c0@cmlaptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:11:33 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:48:24PM +0100, Carl Morley wrote: > Hi Scott, > Indeed - that also has been my opinion / experience. The move from > abject failure to merely inconvenient (in terms of filling up the dmesg > logs with irrelevant crud) was a good one. However, one of my design > philosophies is to make boxes as reliable as possible so I can sleep > well at night - and during the day if necessary... So a little glitch > like that doesn't fit with the philosophy for choosing FreeBSD in the > first instance. I am now much more careful about my hardware selection! > Cheers, > Carl. Hi Carl, Sure, it would be great if this kind of thing didn't happen (although my guess in this case would be that you're just seeing what happens when a 12Mbps USB can't keep up with a 100Mbps Ethernet, so there's not a whole lot you can do about it :-) At least FreeBSD tells you what's going on, unlike some other operating systems I could name. In any case, VIA seems to have the market for small, cheap, quiet, low power boxen pretty much to themselves with these EPIA boards; a little inconvenience is worth it for a quiet office, IMHO. On the other hand, I can't see myself deploying any mission-critical EPIAs at work just yet :) Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon