From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG  Wed Apr  7 12:14:32 2004
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id C713D16A4CE; Wed,  7 Apr 2004 12:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id BD77443D39; Wed,  7 Apr 2004 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua)
Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213])
	by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i37JHOch075756
	(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO);
	Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:17:26 +0300 (EEST)
	(envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua)
Received: (from ru@localhost)
	by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) id i37JD7HR001318;
	Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:13:07 +0300 (EEST)
	(envelope-from ru)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:13:07 +0300
From: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To: Luigi Rizzo <luigi@FreeBSD.org>
Message-ID: <20040407191307.GB1136@ip.net.ua>
References: <20040407105748.C13115@xorpc.icir.org>
	<20040407183843.GA960@ip.net.ua> <20040407115053.A16602@xorpc.icir.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <20040407115053.A16602@xorpc.icir.org>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp)
cc: net@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: arp entries for local interfaces disappearing ?
X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD <freebsd-net.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net>,
	<mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net>,
	<mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:14:32 -0000


--zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 11:50:53AM -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:38:43PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> ...
> > >     ? (10.0.1.52) at 00:02:2d:08:a3:3b on rl0 [ethernet]
> > >     ? (10.0.1.55) at 00:40:f4:34:b1:4b on rl0 permanent [ethernet]
> > >     ? (10.0.1.64) at 52:54:05:de:99:7c on rl0 [ethernet]
> > >=20
> > > and it's marked permanent, so it should not expire! Yet it
> > > looks like they do anyways...
> > >=20
> > Here it doesn't disappear.  Perhaps, you have some routing daemons
>=20
> i suspect you are not supposed to make statements before
> net.link.ether.inet.max_age seconds :)
>=20
:-)

> seriously though, i see this consistently on all 4.9 boxes
> around here... the parent route entries are still there, no
> routing daemons running, no ifconfig's issued...
>=20
$ ifconfig rl0
rl0: flags=3D8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet 10.71.1.80 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.71.1.255
        ether 00:50:fc:79:da:85
        media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
        status: active
$ arp -n 10.71.1.80
? (10.71.1.80) at 00:50:fc:79:da:85 on rl0 permanent [ethernet]

I will see if I still have it tomorrow...


Cheers,
--=20
Ruslan Ermilov
ru@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD committer

--zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature
Content-Disposition: inline

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD)

iD8DBQFAdFLDUkv4P6juNwoRAqxFAJ0fPCYIeVAv9pSG5jsbGimZOUYdLwCfWxeQ
DVdurR+ZRIbBNMxM1JCNeL0=
=8UIU
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O--