From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 24 12:03:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005F616A41F for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:03:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0A543D96 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:02:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBOC55P67899; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:05:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Winelfred G. Pasamba" Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:01:46 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: pretenda@wrgn.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:03:06 -0000 http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/PRI582.htm "...Performs Outbound load balancing by session, weight round robin or traffic..." Note that they say by SESSION not by PACKET. It's marketingspeak. They are simply using the term load balancing for a device that doesen't actually load balance. Apparently they figure that if they say "session load balancing" even though there is no such accepted definition, that then they are somehow not lying. It's akin to someone saying that "FreeBSD is a kind of Linux" in a sentence that uses Linux to indicate "open source operating systems" Apparently you never heard the old saying "A grain of truth is buried in all great lies" Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Winelfred G. >Pasamba >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:30 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: pretenda@wrgn.net; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > >I wonder if these routers are using freebsd > >http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/list-router.htm > >2 WAN, 4 WAN, etc... > >and i also wonder what happens if one WAN goes down? or if the >WANs are of >different speeds? > >On 12/23/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of >> >pretenda@wrgn.net >> >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:09 AM >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections >> > >> > >> >> Which is not redundant. >> > >> > >> > >> >> Considering the OP asked for specifics on how to do this and your >> > >> >> response as been a bunch of theoretical gobbdleygook that >is flat out >> > >> >> wrong network theory, you haven't done anything to help the >> >poor bastard. >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi, >> > >> > >> > >> >This is a pretty firey debate. >> > >> > >> > >> >I have a question along the lines of this thread. I currently >> >have a 1.5Mbit >> >ADSL tail at the school that I work for. This tail connects to >> >the Education >> >Office which hosts a variety of websites, we then get internet access >> >through the education office. >> > >> > >> > >> >We currently also have 230 PCs, and the connection is slowing down >> >significantly. What I planned on doing was purchasing a >20Mbit ADSL 2+ >> >connection and setting up a FreeBSD router which forwards >all internet >> >traffic through the ADSL2+ connection, and the Education >Office traffic >> >would be forwarded through the existing connection. Is this feasible? >> >> The easiest way would be to purchase a DSL modem/router for use >> with the ADSL2 connection (or a ADSL2 modem coupled to a >> etherent-to-ethernet >> DSL router) Set this up as a network address translator, plug it >> into your school network. (you can use FreeBSD for this if >you want) You >> will need >> to do a bit of exploring to find out the subnets that the ED office is >> using. >> >> For example, suppose ED office has assigned IP subnet 10.0.10.0/24 >> to your school. Their existing DSL tail has an IP number of 10.0.10.1 >> on it. You have your PC's seup to use IP addresses 10.0.10.10 - >> 10.0.10.240 >> with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a gateway of 10.0.10.1 >> >> You do some queries with nslookup to find out all the IP >adresses of the >> Ed servers, and you find they are on subnets 10.0.12.x, 10.0.15.x, >> 192.168.4.x, etc. >> >> So, first thing you do is you setup your BSD system/DSL >router/DSl modem >> as a translator, and set it's internal interface IP address >to 10.0.10.2 >> >> Then you add in a bunch of static routes into it for the ED >subnets you >> discovered, pointing those subnets to 10.0.10.1 >> >> Last you set your PC's to use 10.0.10.2 as their default gateway. >> >> When the PC's send traffic to the Internet the router sends >that out the >> ADSL2 line >> >> When the PC's send traffic to ED, the router issues an ICMP >redirect that >> installs an ICMP route in the PC's that points to 10.0.10.1 for that >> host. >> >> Ted >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > >-- >Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things shall be >added unto >you. > >Winelfred G. Pasamba >Adventist University of the Philippines >Computer Science Department, AUP Online Information System >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: >12/23/2005 >