From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 4 1:29:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp1.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD7C37B405; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 01:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p520.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.201.84]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fA49SEV29047; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:28:15 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:28:10 +0100 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Matthew Dillon Cc: jose@we.lc.ehu.es, bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@harmony.village.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/src/UPDATING Message-Id: <20011104102810.560598cc.steve@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <200111040148.fA41mVh26905@apollo.backplane.com> References: <200111040148.fA41mVh26905@apollo.backplane.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:48:31 -0800 (PST) Matthew Dillon wrote: MD> Whenever ipfw changes people who update their kernel and do not reinstall MD> world (or at leaset the ipfw binary) often wind up with unaccessible MD> machines when they reboot, because /etc/rc* cannot load the IPFW rule MD> set. I rather thought UPDATING was there to highlight problems that would trip somoene doing the *normal* upgrade procedure. If it were to contain a notice everytime something needed world and kernel in sync then it would be (I suspect) too noisy to serve the main purpose well. As it is I can look at the top of UPDATING and feel confident that a normal buildworld, kernel installworld sequence will work, or know that it won't and what to do about it. OTOH, dirpref may justify an entry since there were things that you *may* want to do when upgrading. MD> It's happened to me many, many times. It's extremely annoying. An MD> UPDATING entry is the minimum that should be added. It would also be I see your problem - but please somewhere else. Perhaps just some indication of the oldest kernel (sources) that can be expected to run the world (and why earlier ones break for the luxury touch) in a separate file. PS: A big thank you to Warner for UPDATING being there. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message