From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 19:59:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663CD16A400 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A42213C481 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069E51A000B0E for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:28:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.sd73.bc.ca Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id oWURf5ZTA4yx for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from coal (s10.sbo [192.168.0.10]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9EC1A000B23 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:28:39 -0800 (PST) From: Freddie Cash To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:28:38 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45C8CB7B.5090200@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <45C8CB7B.5090200@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702061128.38393.fcash@ocis.net> Subject: Re: Productivity with FBSD, or: "portupgrade" vs. virus scans.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:59:49 -0000 On Tuesday 06 February 2007 10:39 am, Kevin Kinsey wrote: [snippage] > If you're a desktop FBSD user: I'm a laptop FreeBSD user. :) I did the initial install of everything using packages, and have only updated twice since then: once to get KDE 3.5.5, the other time to get Firefox 2.0.0.1. > How do you keep up with ports? > *Do you have (or have you, at some time, had) much trouble? > *If you have trouble, do you accept it as a "cost" of using > FreeBSD? > > How often do you upgrade your ports/packages? Very, very, very rarely. The only time I update a port on my work laptop is when a needed feature (mainly wireless or KDE related) is available in a new release, or a serious security issue that affects me is fixed. The rest of the time, I just use the software that is already installed. As much as possible, I use packages, but will compile things when needed (usually overnight). > Any suggestions on what I might do differently? > *Should I quit updating FBSD except for major point releases? Yes. Why update if there is no compelling business reason to update? > *Should we upgrade the server-type ports and leave the desktop apps > alone when we get a "stable" configuration there? Leave them both alone. Once you get a working configuration, don't touch it. Only updated it for security or needed-features updates. Don't update simply because a new version is available. If it ain't broke, don't try to break it. :) > *How dangerous is it to be using outdated ports (particularly the > servers)? Unless there is a security issue, there's nothing to worry about. -- Freddie Cash fcash@ocis.net