From owner-cvs-all Sat Mar 17 0: 9:26 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (ashto-0006.sjc.ca.bbnow.net [24.219.121.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2D937B719; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:09:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2H8CiQ02365; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200103170812.f2H8CiQ02365@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: "David O'Brien" , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:58:21 CST." <20010315175821.D362@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:12:44 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 01:55:47PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > > Your mentor has does NOT give you the right to do this w/o an OK'ed by > > the maintainer. I think Will has been around here enough he doesn't > > need to be considered a mentee any longer? Or is this something you're > > going to hold over his head forever. > > Since you're going to drag this out into the open instead of privately > mailing me: no, I don't consider Will to be outside my mentorship in the > src/ tree. I get the impression that I was meant to be your mentor at some point, Bill. So perhaps I should just ask you, politely, to consider that the mentor role does *not* make your pupil an extension of yourself. The mentor role is meant to be one of guidance and assistance, not overlordship, and I think you're abusing it terribly here. David - I don't think that seniority has anything to do with it, and I don't think that's a valid ground for this sort of behaviour. Will is the recognised maintainer of make(1), and ultimately this is his call. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message