From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 10 10:11:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F026C37BEE9 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:11:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32630; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:11:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA48271; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Jonathan Smith Subject: Re: Previous Message on /etc/defaults Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Dan O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Jul-00 Jonathan Smith wrote: >> My $0.02: I thinks it's a good idea for /etc/defaults/whatever to set the >> defaults and then load any customizations for /etc/whatever. Personally, I >> *like* having small /etc/whatever files with just my entries to worry about. >> And if we call defaults from the /etc copy, you have to first have an /etc >> version, or else the defaults don't get loaded at all... > > *grins* > > That's your choice, I'm not saying to take it away from you. > > We already have to have an etc version, either that or sysinstall > generates it. Either way, it gets created. > > > I started with slackware almost 4 years ago.... I personally had a > nightmare getting things done in the sysv way of things, all the various > config files just get the system started. > > Then, one of the local 'experts' had me try FreeBSD. (This was in the > 2.2.x days ;) I had one main config file that I had to edit that listed > nearly [if not] all of the main options to get my machine up. I think > that was the first (and one of the biggest) reasons I stayed with > FreeBSD. > > > Since then, I've been frustrated by the defaults directory; however, I do > realise it's value in large networks. I don't want that removed, but I > think it'd be nice to be able to remove it more easily. Err, all the options are still listed in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and are documented in the rc.conf manpage (or should be). > As I said, my suggestion also makes it quite obvious that the defaults are > just that. Except that in practice your suggestion would result in many users breaking their systems. As it is now in -current and 4-stable, you can copy the existing defaults/rc.conf into /etc and edit it if you want. > j. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message