From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 23:55:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944C616A41F for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433C243D45 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:55:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jA3NtrG1064647; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 17:55:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <436AA389.9010803@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:55:53 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Pazarena References: <436A8E90.20908@ccstores.com> In-Reply-To: <436A8E90.20908@ccstores.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:55:56 -0000 Jim Pazarena wrote: > after reading the original competition posting, it seems that it was > orchestrated by the "core" @ freebsd > > it would be interesting to learn the total # of "core" members, and how > the vote went, yay and nay, and whether, it at all, the "core" is > hearing the message which seems to be emanating from the "non-core".. Sigh. "*the message*"? Mixed messages at best. Some like it. A few more don't. A number really, really don't like it at all. Many, many, many, many, many more are completely silent on the topic, meaning they really don't give a flying /dev/null. > IOW, can the decision be reversed? is it being considered? If the process gets reversed based on the fervent outcry of a small number of people who think they have somehow been disenfranchised, that would be just as silly as the oft-repeated "this whole thing was done to please offended right-wingers" argument. There was a process (seems to me it was a fair process), it's over, and some factions lost, particularly the "don't change anything" faction. By gosh and gee willikers, what a surprise. Seems to me like those who are up in arms over this: (a) had every chance to participate in the process (b) did not participate in the process except to heartily denounce the very existence of the process and its goal (c) even now outright refuse to go and be part of the advocacy@ community where this discussion is germane to that list charter (d) need a real big mop for all the spilled milk and tears Hey... take NetBSD's flag logo, flip it vertically, draw some more lines, update the text, and walla! a FreeBSD mop logo! Perfecto. Biggest. Bike. Shed. Ever. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348