From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Feb 28 23:54:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11580 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:54:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11574; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:54:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06545; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:24:23 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA05015; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:24:22 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980301182422.45428@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:24:22 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Sue Blake Cc: zjhh2@etsu.edu, Mark Mayo , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jhhiggins@prodigy.net Subject: Re: newbies mailing list References: <19980301011318.06574@vmunix.com> <19980301175646.54027@welearn.com.au> <19980301173432.42499@freebie.lemis.com> <19980301181929.41719@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980301181929.41719@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 06:19:29PM +1100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 18:19:29 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 05:34:32PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 17:56:47 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: >>> >>> I wasn't thinking of a place to get answers. There's a great deal more to >>> being a newbie than having questions. I was thinking more of a place to just >>> be for a while with real peers, to let off steam and get things into >>> perspective. One problem that will arise is people trying to answer other >>> people's questions. That cannot be stopped, but the focus can put it into >>> perspective. >> >> I think you need to say this in the charter, then. > > Yeah, maybe it would be more usefully presented as a newbies chat list, > so as to avoid reliance on it for answers and to invite chat. This sounds like a very good idea! >>> Of course, this relates to just one idea of what a newbies' list might be. >> >> It'll be interesting to see what comes of it. I think the more >> experienced people should also be asked to shut up and not participate >> (though they could be allowed to lurk). > > Hmm, I'm thinking that it's easier to communicate in a space that you own > (as a newbie) rather than one where you're a guest, and a few too clever > people could take that feeling away. That is, assuming it is not going to be > primarily a place to get questions answered. Of course, there's nothing > stopping any lurkers with good answers from sneakily replying off the list, > just as I have been doing for some of the misunderstood newbies. > > If the list were for asking questions, then those who can and will answer > questions would have yet another mailing list to monitor which might be > asking too much. The existing -questions traffic would not be spread over > the two lists. I predict that there's a lot more questions out there that > never get asked. I think this is reasonable, too. -questions is and remains the list for specific questions. -newbie could be more a discussion group for people new to FreeBSD. It's always good to be able to distinguish the charters, and this looks like the best distinction I've seen so far. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message