From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 16 13:24:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28377 for current-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28350; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA18052; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:15:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199706162015.NAA18052@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Need to rebuild libkvm,ps,w To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:15:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199706160147.LAA08666@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jun 16, 97 11:17:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Dumb question, why can't we isolate the apps from the proc data structures? > > Because the in-kernel infrastructure for arb. data retrieval isn't > there yet. Actually, isn't it really the memory image arguments to ps/w/et. al. that cause the problem? We could go to /proc tomorrow if /proc were mandatory and we didn't care about ps'ing crash dumps (doing that sems to me to be the job of the kernel debugger, anyway). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.