From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 21 13:24:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f102.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD0037B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marciofdavid@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:24:26 -0700 Received: from 200.171.111.74 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:24:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.171.111.74] From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?TeFyY2lvIERhdmlk?=" To: daniel@grunblatt.com.ar, marcus@marcuscom.com Cc: culverk@wam.umd.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD ? What kind of OS is that ? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:24:26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2001 20:24:26.0261 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A8ECC50:01C0FA90] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

Huummm.. Dude, I used all the OSs I could (not much, but all I could find), in fact I'm still looking for OS/2. Ppl say it's dead, but who cares !? I junt wanna install it, see it working and find some programs for it. Why ? Cuz I like it. Cuz I'm curious. Why I said that things about Unix-like OSs ? Cuz I tried many of them and hated, but I thing it's not a reason to do not install another one... I'll try it again and again and will come back to windows (problably) but at least I found something new. Learned something many Windows users don't know. I tried even Amiga OS ! On a A500 once ! But my favorite is Basic, from MSX ! hehe I love Basic programming.

But I think it's not the time to install other unix-like. Wanna something diferent right now.

Ah, cya no more.

MD -> Yeah, I'm using Windows, so what ?

 

>
>Please, understand the diference between kick that asshole and believe in
>this project, and between everyone and our fellow ... anyway send him to
>www.freebsd.org, I don't think any of us should lose time because he does
>not wan't to do anything.
>
>On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Joe Clarke wrote:
>
> > Well, I'd like to make everyone's FreeBSD experience (or lack of
> > experience) a good one. I've been using FreeBSD for 6 years now, and I
> > really believe in this project. If we start flaming everyone, we'll turn
> > into another Linux users list.
> >
> > Joe Clarke
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Daniel Grunblatt wrote:
> >
> > > Is it really usefull to answer to such an asshole? why don't you just tell
> > > him that freebsd sucks and he must stay as far as he can from it?
> > >
> > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Joe Clarke wrote:
> > >
> > > > A screenshot of FreeBSD is somewhat useless. Bring up a bash shell in
> > > > BeOS, and you've got a good idea. However, like with Linux, there are
> > > > many different X11 desktops (like KDE, Gnome, xfce), and window managers
> > > > (afterstep, windowmaker, twm, mwm, sawfish, enlightenment, etc.). Going
> > > > to any one of their pages will show you screenshots of what those
> > > > interfaces can do.
> > > >
> > > > Joe Clarke
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] Márcio David wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx everyone for the replys.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I'll check this FreeBSD someday, when i have some free time (and a
> > > > > free HD... dont wanna have 2 OSs in the same HD..)
> > > > >
> > > > > About the MacOS X, well, i had an iMac 233 and had lots of hardware
> > > > > problems (most of them in my monitor ! Just after about 1 year using
> > > > > it...). And Macs are REALLY expansive in my country... I can buy about 3
> > > > > good pcs with the money...
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll still with Windows and BeOS for now...
> > > > >
> > > > > Just one more thing.. Can you give me a link for some FreeBSD
> > > > > screenshots ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Gotta go. cya.
> > > > >
> > > > > MD
> > > > >
> > > > > >To add to Ken's comments, if you want to use a really nice, and easy OS
> > > > > >with FreeBSD under the covers, I recommend Mac OS X. I know you'll have
> > > > > >to buy new hardware for it, but it will definitely satisfy most of what
> > > > > >you want. The GUI comes up out of the box, networking is a snap, and
> > > > > root
> > > > > >is disabled ;-).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >While I persoanlly love FreeBSD, I'd hate to recommend it saying it will
> > > > > >be the OS of your dreams. If you're looking for something like Windows,
> > > > > >FreeBSD is probably not for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Joe Clarke
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm using M$ Win ME right now. I tried windows 95/98/ME/2K, MacOS,
> > > > > > > > Linux (many distributions), BeOS, and some others OSs ! hehe Well,
> > > > > > > > looking at all those OSs, I decided to continue with my old M$
> > > > > > > > OS........ But now I wanna something new ! Something diferent...
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > just a new stupid linux distribution that takes 5 hours to make it
> > > > > > > > work and about a month to make the damn internet work. So, i would
> > > > > > > > like to know if FreeBSD is a DIFERENT OS, or it's just another
> > > > > > > > "Linux-like" OS. Exemple : Will i see a stupid prompt asking me to
> > > > > > > > type "root" when i turn on my computer ? Will i have to use wich
> > > > > > > > Graphical interface ? (please, say it's not KDE...) Guess that's
> > > > > all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, lets answer your questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) As for ease of use: it's not windows, if you took 5 hours to get
> > > > > linux
> > > > > > > working, (any distribution) and a month to get the internet working,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > FreeBSD will most likely be harder for you. If you want ease of use
> > > > > stick
> > > > > > > with winblows or BeOS. Just for comparison though, once you get
> > > > > everything
> > > > > > > working, you'll find that you can install and configure a system in
> > > > > less
> > > > > > > than an hour, sometimes 30 minutes. (on my machine, that's faster
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > windows installs, and I have only ever installed FreeBSD from the
> > > > > network,
> > > > > > > never from CD)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) Linux-like is the wrong way to put it. FreeBSD is UNIX-based,
> > > > > Linux is
> > > > > > > a UNIX clone, so Linux is UNIX-Like, and FreeBSD is UNIX-based.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3) When you first install the machine, you will see a login prompt,
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > is expected behavior for any UNIX based or UNIX like operating
> > > > > system, and
> > > > > > > it's not stupid, it's just not windows as I said before.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 4) You can choose which Graphical Interface is installed when you're
> > > > > > > installing the operating system. KDE-2, Gnome, Windowmaker, etc...
> > > > > it's up
> > > > > > > to you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 5) to me it seems like your idea of a good os is one that is easy and
> > > > > > > doesn't crash much. Well I've never had FreeBSD crash, and it's hard
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > learn at first, but once you learn it, it becomes easier, and more
> > > > > logical
> > > > > > > than windows. (I can fix a FreeBSD problem in minutes usually, most
> > > > > often
> > > > > > > without even rebooting the machine, where my windows expert friends
> > > > > often
> > > > > > > fix their problems by rebooting the machine)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ken
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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