From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Feb 28 23:55:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11765 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:55:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1y-int.prodigy.net (mail1y-ext.prodigy.net [198.83.19.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11759; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:55:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamesh@etsu.edu) Received: from localhost (jamesh@slip166-72-245-82.tn.us.ibm.net [166.72.245.82]) by mail1y-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA98422; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:52:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:52:54 -0500 (EST) From: James X-Sender: jamesh@localhost Reply-To: zjhh2@etsu.edu To: Sue Blake cc: zjhh2@Access.ETSU.Edu, Greg Lehey , Mark Mayo , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jhhiggins@prodigy.net, sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au Subject: Re: newbies mailing list In-Reply-To: <19980301183351.42354@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Sue Blake wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 02:18:38AM -0500, James wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 17:56:47 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > > > > > > > > I wasn't thinking of a place to get answers. There's a great deal more to > > > > being a newbie than having questions. I was thinking more of a place to just > > > > be for a while with real peers, to let off steam and get things into > > > > perspective. One problem that will arise is people trying to answer other > > > > people's questions. That cannot be stopped, but the focus can put it into > > > > perspective. > > > > > > I think you need to say this in the charter, then. > > > > Definitely. > > But do you like the sound of that approach or not? That sounds like a good approach. It also accomplishes something very importatnt and that is just getting the new lurkers out of the dark and talking on the lists. Once that is achieved the rest of the lists cantake over. I think that is the big underlying problem. I have posted more in the last couple of hours than I have ever. I think if you can accomplish that and get good discussion going you will kill fears of posting and achieve the bigger goal of people being helped with their problems. (well pertinent problems anyway.. :) ) > > > > Of course, this relates to just one idea of what a newbies' list might be. > > > > > > It'll be interesting to see what comes of it. I think the more > > > experienced people should also be asked to shut up and not participate > > > (though they could be allowed to lurk). > > > > Also for easy expert opinions should questions arise. Nothing wrong with > > a friendly experienced person adding to traffic as long as the focus is > > clearly directed towards newbies. > > Yes... but it depends. Say Joe Bloggs knows a lot and answers really well > and hangs around the new list, and more experienced Joe Bloggs fans come > over and start asking about all sorts of hairy things. Asking them to go > elsewhere would make some newbies fear for their own welcome, and reduce the > level of support from something everyone had become accustomed to. Yeah that Joe Bloggs guy is brilliant or something...... There will be no way you can totally prevent overlap, or even a few technical questions. > Any kind of newbie list would be an improvement, IMO. It'd be nice if some > of the outcomes included newbies feeling that they're not alone, that at > least for a time they can't do anything that won't be forgiven, and that Exactly, I think that should be what a newbie list is. Create an area open to free discussion where occasioal "dumb" questions can be asked with no bad feelings. > even as newbies they might be able to ease the path for someone else. I can > live without all that, but I'd rather not. Welcome to FreeBSD-NewbieAdvocacy.. :) James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message