From owner-freebsd-chat Wed May 30 2:28:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B577B37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:28:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f4U9SBR39680 ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:28:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA60979 ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:28:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:28:48 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Terry Lambert Cc: Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFilter not free software? Message-ID: <20010530112848.H57297@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010525084905.A94861@lpt.ens.fr> <200105251841.LAA12009@usr05.primenet.com> <20010526102234.A51269@lpt.ens.fr> <3B14BA89.578D1D6@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B14BA89.578D1D6@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:16:57AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert said on May 30, 2001 at 02:16:57: > Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > > I'll be obliged. Also if you can point at one "InterJet" or > > > "IBM Web Connections" ad which mentions features specific to, > > > or use of, FreeBSD. > > > > I'm not familiar with these. > > OK, so pick "FreeGate" or "Encanto" or "CacheFlow"; whatever. Let's take a better known example: Microsoft. In 1995 they used BSD code for their networking in Windows 95. They widely trumpeted the networking features in their advertisements (the Internet was just catching on, and Windows 3.1 didn't have any inbuilt internet capability). I don't recall any acknowledgement of UCB in Microsoft's advertisements. Was that, or was it not, a violation of the advertising clause (which had not yet been removed at that time)? My claim is that the advertising clause would have been violated more often than honoured, even by well-meaning people. Moreover, it was inconsistent with the goal of allowing the maximum number of people to use the software with the least amount of hassle. Dropping it was a good thing. - Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message