From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE3916A57D for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E8C43D49 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BC0290C29 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96548-03 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CD2290C38 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:59 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC2A45C5F9; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:20:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id CA6084A8B7; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:04:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C684A8B1; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:04:32 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:04:32 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <54BDA592-E798-4A1C-A53E-72C8707B3630@shire.net> Message-ID: <20060729020231.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0A75@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> <54BDA592-E798-4A1C-A53E-72C8707B3630@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions , "Born, Clinton" Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:13 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > >> Really? I wouldn't want such a myopic view when choosing to allocate our >> shareholders dollars. Best tool for the job. Period! > > That is not as easy as you make it out to be. WHat one might in the short > term see as the best tool may not be such in 2 years when support is dropped > and you are in a forced obsolescence and have to replace it with something > else... So making value judgments like tools that are known to be well > supported on FReeBSD for example is part of determining the best tool for the > job Actually, and this brings up another point ... there is nothing that stops VendorX from discontinuing their 'open policy' in 2 years either ... although one would hope that over the years, more would open, not less, it is possible ... Case in point: ICP Vortex *did* provide source drivers for FreeBSD up until FreeBSD 5.x, and then stop'd: http://www.icp-vortex.com/english/download/rz_neu/freebsd/frbsd_e.htm > > Chad > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Amitabh Kant >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:28 AM >> To: Nikolas Britton >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? >> >> And this is what I always do. As a person responsible for >> recommending/approving/buying harware related stuff for few different >> companies, I make it a point that I *prefer* only those brands that >> have support for FreeBSD. For me, this is more so in case of RAID >> cards. >> >> On 7/27/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: >>> Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting are >>> pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't work >>> on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve it's >>> uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor >>> doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing open >>> documentation. >>> >> >> I see the whole issue this way: companies are free to choose whether >> to support FreeBSD or not, and I am free to choose/recommend their >> product in my installations. It's only when we start to speak with our >> money bags, that it will make commercial sense to them to support >> *BSD. >> >> Amitabh >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ---- Marc G. 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