From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Apr 15 0:51:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6F437B684 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:51:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18569 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:51:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id JAA11644 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:51:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A339137BFE7; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.225.122]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FT1SGP02.HCF; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:50:49 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA96297; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:50:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:50:48 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: Steve Passe , arch@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Import of tcsh into src/contrib/, replacing src/usr.bin/csh Message-ID: <20000415095048.D87742@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <200004120503.XAA15393@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 02:55:28PM +0930 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000412 08:01], Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au) wrote: > >On 12-Apr-00 Steve Passe wrote: >> part of any system. It is the default shell for a "user". It would >> be more uniform if it were also the default shell for root. > >I think 'default shell for a "user"' is a very weak argument since when >you make an account (with pw, vipw, sysinstall, etc) you can trivially >change the shell.. I don't give new users sh, its umm, yucky :) Then according to your own statement, you would have to visit ports first before even giving your users a choice. Which in turns supports the fact that having either csh or tcsh in the base system is not the way to go. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project To desire immortality is to desire the eternal perpetuation of a great mistake... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message