From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 23:22:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9016A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327AB13C48D for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859902257E0; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9C85BD69; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-184-176.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.184.176]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C83275B50; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l17IXd0e047486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l17IXaZu042791; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l17IXaik042790; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: Joe Vender Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200702062130.58069.jvender@owensboro.net> <200702070859.28646.lofi@freebsd.org> <200702071145.57261.jvender@owensboro.net> In-Reply-To: <200702071145.57261.jvender@owensboro.net> X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart12604678.YGQuYBNEF8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702071933.35688.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:22:11 -0000 --nextPart12604678.YGQuYBNEF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 7. February 2007 18:45, Joe Vender wrote: > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 01:59, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > ... > > > There is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D55785 on record, your > > description sounds more like you're getting a kernel panic in the > > background though (KPPP is a frontend for pppd and the in-kernel ppp > > driver). > > If I want to use KPPP in FreeBSD, do I need to first manually edit any > config files for pppd, and if so, please elaborate, or does creating the > settings in the "Configure" sections of KPPP take care of everything > needed? > > I found this bug report which sounds just like the problem I'm having with > FreeBSD and KPPP. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Di386/98154 I agree, that sounds similar. I've changed the CC to stable@, since that is= a=20 better place for pppd/kernel ppp related issues. > Is there any intention to address it? I call on the community (especially those with modems) to take it on. To th= at=20 end, I've left your motivational speech below intact for everyone's benefit. > IMHO, setting up a dialup connection in FreeBSD via ppp seems like jumping > through hoops, even compared to linux. Personally, I think it's pretty easy - for modem users it usually means jus= t=20 editing four lines in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (device, phone number, user,=20 password) then typing ppp in a shell, then typing dial and= =20 they're online. That's pretty much the same amount of data input and=20 interaction that kppp requires. > I was told on the freebsd-questions=20 > mailing list that KPPP uses pppd, and that pppd is known to be very buggy > and essentially unmaintained in FreeBSD. If this is true, then a very > easy-to-use feature of KDE, namely KPPP for setting up a dialup connectio= n, > is not going to be usable. A lot of users are going to be put off FreeBSD > if they can't use KPPP with a serial modem on dialup. FreeBSD needs a > usable KPPP, and therefore a working and maintained pppd, if it has any > plans to be considered a user-friendly desktop alternative to linux, not = to > mention an alternative to Windows. Cheers, =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart12604678.YGQuYBNEF8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFyht/Xhc68WspdLARAqqaAKCf0NF/jhGSjKh1i2xgJMi9z1/U/wCeOcnp 0uMy9a0vtQrvbcifqh3YWHA= =UzVM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart12604678.YGQuYBNEF8--