From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 19 16:34:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB9016A402 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A3013C428 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so525012wxc for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.79.6 with SMTP id c6mr3043834agb.1169224446319; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.4? ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 38sm5690935wrl.2007.01.19.08.34.05; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:34:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:34:24 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: <20070119152124.GE25249@submonkey.net> References: <20070118231254.GA5405@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20070119152124.GE25249@submonkey.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20070119112918.2612.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.30 [en] Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:34:07 -0000 On Friday January 19, 2007 at 10:21:24 (AM) Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they > > position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the > > text. My editor also positions the cursor at the very top when I > > reply to a message. But it also makes it possible to tidy things up. > > To be fair to Microsoft (or perhaps this makes it even worse), their Mac > development team clearly understand this, as Entourage (the Mac > equivalent of Outlook) doesn't do any of the tens of stupid things that > Outlook does. Actually, the MS Live Beta version can be configured to place the cursor at the end when replying. > > "Top posting" is only one issue. Others of great importance are > > trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and > > not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of > > things that people should remove from replies. No one needs a 10+ line signature. Perhaps they are compromising for other shortcomings. > > When they are correctly formatted (line-feed,hyphen,hyphen,space), good > MUAs can do this automatically. I think the problem can be more readily attributed to the theory of "PEBKC". -- Gerard