From owner-freebsd-java Sun Dec 9 20:36: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC5E37B419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 20:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06367; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:35:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBA4Zqd87477; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:35:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15380.15272.167683.46148@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:35:52 -0700 To: absinthe@pobox.com Cc: Bill Huey , shanon loveridge , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.3.1p5 In-Reply-To: <20011209223635.A1152@absinthe> References: <20011210001702.10731.qmail@web14303.mail.yahoo.com> <20011210024138.GA3148@gnuppy> <20011209223635.A1152@absinthe> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > that it's not clear to me or that I'm not getting the necessary feedback from > > folks in the community that indicate that native threading is important > > both of these technically and legally reasons from the luke warm responses > > I get from folks. > > > > I can speak only on behalf of me and the companies I try to deploy > FreeBSD at as, in some cases, Java application servers -- native > threading is *Very* important... and further I appreciate all the work > you guys are doing towards this. Why? The native threading that we're using now is no better/worse than the internal green threads implementation. Without kernel threads, native threads have *EXACTLY* the same sorts of problems that exist with green threads. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message