From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B1F16A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F6943D55 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8F3290C29 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89044-09 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE93291B2E for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 00A7F5C627; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:30:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id A113F4A5C3; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:01:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E95C4A5AA; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:01:22 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:01:22 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Darrin Chandler In-Reply-To: <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> Message-ID: <20060729020024.J27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060726164622.Q17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726201933.GH5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060726185018.BB70.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc> <84b68b3d0607271127k175100d9sa3285fadc53e5369@mail.gmail.com> <20060728161300.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Amitabh Kant , Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:39 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 04:16:55PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: >> >> And my point is that those not supporting FreeBSD already don't care, >> since as far as they are concerned, their is no market for them to be >> losing .... not buying their products isn't telling them anything they >> didn't already believe ... > > Actually, this is a very valid point. A good approach would be to write > to the vendor and tell them than you had considered their product and it > looks good based on purely technical mertis, but you had to go with a > competitors products due to availability of technical documentation. > > Frankly, the lost sales from FreeBSD will get lost in the noise for a > company like Adaptec. However, a few dozen or a few hundred letters like > above would carry a fair amount of weight. Leave out any attitude or > flames. Just tell them their competitor made money instead of them. > > AMD has played pretty nice with specs, along with price and other things > to be comptetitive. It's worked well for them. Has Intel changed because > of this? You bet. In addition to lowering prices, they've begun to open > specs. Yes! That's a win for everyone, even Intel, and Intel is > beginning to suspect... > > Now, can we get Adaptec or Broadcom to follow suite? Maybe. Some > companies are slow learners. Counting FreeBSD installs and telling them > how many there are won't do nearly as much as 1 out of 1000 FreeBSD > users writing them a letter telling them you bought from their > competitors because of their policies. Bonus points if the competitor > has been nipping at their heels lately. ;) Something like this is what the FreeBSD Foundation should co-ordinate ... not a 'letter writing campaign', but coming up with a well worded, professional form letter that we could use ... I, for one, am a terrible writer :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664