From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 1 18:18:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1337316A4CE for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2005 18:18:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C24743D1D for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2005 18:18:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 39197 invoked by uid 1005); 1 Jan 2005 18:18:23 -0000 Received: from rainer@ultra-secure.de by bsd.ultra-secure.de by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 Clear:RC:1(217.235.145.232):. Processed in 0.212099 secs); 01 Jan 2005 18:18:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.235.145.232) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Jan 2005 18:18:23 -0000 Message-ID: <41D6F77A.1030905@ultra-secure.de> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:18:18 +0100 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mobile@freebsd.org References: <41D5911A.6080403@acm.org> <41D60825.3000802@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <41D60825.3000802@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Buying a laptop. (HP, Compaq, or Gateway) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:18:26 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Mark A-J. Raught (from the laptop) wrote: > > my ideas of a laptop are on the opposite of your scale (small, long > battery life ...). > Indeed. > All I know is that there is also Acer which offers at least three > machines in your class. > >> >> Gateway 7405GX (AMD 64 3200+) >> HP zv5320us (AMD XP-M 3000+) >> Compaq r3306us (AMD XP-M 3000+) >> >> On to the big problem; I can't find any info on any of the laptops >> with FreeBSD. I checked the usual compatibility web pages, but >> couldn't find > > > I only have read about the Acer Ferraris. > I'd also be wary about consumer-grade laptops. The customer-service is often non-existant and the low price comes with (more often than not) ultra-low quality - just search Google for your favourite laptop-brand, together with the word "hinges"...) My advice, if you need the laptop to earn money, is to set for a business-model (like HP NX7010 or so - the FSC E8010 I own will not be so easy to get where you live, I'm afraid). You can buy additional warranty, too. I've only seen Acer PCs, end they seemed less than stellar. >> Extra info: The laptop will be wiped (no windows please) and I will >> be running FreeBSD. I have no problem replacing a miniPCI card if >> need be, > > > FreeBSD is not as good as Windows in a single point: power consumption. It's even worse than Linux (SuSE 9.2). At least on my Fujitsu-Siemens E8010. But SuSE totally drops the ball in the ACPI-departement. I can at least suspend-to-RAM with 5.3 (unfortunately not -to-disk), but SuSE 9.2 doesn't even do that. Well, it can suspend to RAM, but the SuSE doesn't wake-up anymore. Or it wakes up and shows only a black screen. FreeBSD works very good in that specific area. cheers, Rainer -- =================================================== ~ Rainer Duffner - rainer@ultra-secure.de ~ ~ Freising - Munich - Germany ~ ~ Unix - Linux - BSD - OpenSource - Security ~ ~ http://www.ultra-secure.de/~rainer/pubkey.pgp ~ ===================================================