From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 14 15:47:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D336B37B417; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g0ENlCL15449; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:47:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:47:12 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Gregory Bond Cc: John Baldwin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Richard S. Conto" Subject: Re: New cdboot ISO available Message-ID: <20020114154712.A14214@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <200201142320.KAA12369@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200201142320.KAA12369@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:20:21AM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:20:21AM +1100, Gregory Bond wrote: > > Yes, but then who do you target the ISO at? I'm trying to judge how wi= dely > > used the older machines are and if we should still use boot.flp on the = ISO's=20 > > to > > accomodate them. >=20 > It depends on the nature and ubiquity of the "newer devices" that > get dropped off kern.flp. If we get to the stage where even a small > fraction of new systems aren't supported by kern.flp installs (because > they come with RAID cards etc that are not on kern.flp) then it will > be time to change. It's much easier for middling-old systems to boot > using kern.flp than it is for someone (to pick a hypothetical example) > with only a RAID controller not supported by kern.flp to hand-craft > a floppy boot image, or do a double install (once to supported IDE > drive, once to unsupported-by-kern.flp RAID device). Unless we want > to get into the game of having a mix-n-match selection of kern.flp > images! (This might be doable if we have 2 kern.flp images - one for > "older systems" from 386-P2, one for "newer systems" from P3/Duron on, > to pick a somewhat arbitary convention that should at least be fairly > easy to explain to newbies.) IMO, we crossed this line a while back when the first 10/100 Ethernet driver was removed from kern.flp. That's not as bad as a RAID controler, but it's pretty lame that we don't support any random ethernet NIC out of the box. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Q24AXY6L6fI4GtQRAhYGAKDm5Mm+ZXUuymgrDY1WWO2LY9aSNgCg0vKp xrvUy8QYfZDYrf4agzEvaRs= =Sg63 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message